What are these crafting orders!?

If that were the case, I’d just use my own mats and then vendor the item.

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So you’re asking for the system to constantly scan the AH for average material costs and factor that into which orders it will allow and which it won’t, that’s ridiculous.

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That doesn’t track. If they already had the materials, the crafter would have done it themselves.

Got my lariat done on couple alts for 10 gold

Addons already do that because it was a necessity. If an addon can do it, the system could do it easier.

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Making it so people can submit crafting orders with no mats is the dumbest thing Blizzard has ever done.

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Did you supply the materials?

This is like what my bank is doing, they’re putting more stringent guardrails on accounts because some boomer is stupid enough to fall for one of these phone scams, in order to protect the 1/1000 idiot, the other 999 people are having more restrictions on their transactions. It’s just ridiculous handholding.

No. It’s called consumer protections. They ultimately lower the cost of goods and services, because scammers aren’t making out with thousands of dollars or more, which is given back through insurance through the FDIC.

And not just idiots get scammed. To a layman, any phishing site looks legit and they’ll get taken. And do you know the most targeted groups are for phishing? Not the old people.

Phishing is less common among older adults, with just over one in four (27.9%) of those aged 75 years and over receiving phishing messages in the previous month.

Those who are most often targeted by phishing attacks also have the most disposable income to lose, are homeowners, or have children to support.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/phishingattackswhoismostatrisk/2022-09-26#:~:text=Phishing%20is%20less%20common%20among,or%20have%20children%20to%20support.

I’d wager most of those who complain about, “Gubment regalashuns r bad! Cept them cyber guys! We need to regalate them cyber guys so they don steel are elecshuns!” get taken more often than others. Though, I don’t have the numbers to back that claim. It would be poetic.

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No, to an idiot it’ll look legit, the average person isn’t stupid enough to fall for a message on their phone saying that they have an overdue toll account or their child is in trouble and needs some money wired to them. Suggesting that anyone other than idiots fall for this crap is just ridiculous.

Anyway, it’s all a matter of opinion. Lets take a trip down a hypothetical path where you get your way and Blizzard goes out of their way to implement a system that can monitor the price of materials and restrict orders that don’t seem “fair”. How will this system work? Will it run a different set of numbers for each individual server based on each AH market? Because they can vary wildly. Are you happy with a situation where from one server to the next we could have me being able to post an order for an item to be made for 5000g, but some poor shmuck on a low pop server with a jacked up economy can’t list the same order for any less than 20,000g?

What exactly do you think the AH barons will do with this situation? They’ll start manipulating the materials market in order to mess with the system that scans for raw material prices, they’ll post thousands of singles at super low or super high prices and then withdraw them over and over again to mess with the system and get the desired change to the market they’re trying to manipulate.

There are so many ways something like this could go wrong, i just think it’s easier for people to just look for the green ticks in the existing UI and if people aren’t providing their own materials, make a call as to whether or not you want to make it, it really isn’t rocket science.

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You accept the order and just leave it,

That’ll show them :smiling_imp:

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I had someone accept my order (that supplied all the mats and had like a 500g tip), for something simple, it was a Treatise that I hadn’t learned on my Scribe yet [thankfully I know all of them now], then they logged out.

Made me so mad. Like who does that?

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I’ve reached the point where I decline the call if the caller ID doesn’t say it’s my doctor or my pharmacy.

it’s literally free gold stop complaining

You’ve apparently never worked in IT if you think this is accurate. I’m not saying you will fall for it, but you’re the type of person that’s more susceptible to these attacks because you think you’re too smart to fall for them. Your only metric for comparison are those horribly worded emails designed specifically to weed out people that might catch on later before you’re taken. This saves them time and effort. Sometimes, you have to actually do a search on who owns the domain of the email or website to find out if it’s legit or not. Without doing so, even seasoned security experts have been fooled, so don’t think you can’t.

Part of my degree was learning about the really good attacks and ways to combat them.

If the crafter’s cut doesn’t cover the cost of materials, it ain’t free gold. These scammers are hoping to get someone not paying attention and get their order filled.

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dang and here i am providing tips and all the mats, i’m a sucker :frowning:

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https://imgur.com/a/JvnEpO6 check this out, 75k worth of mats, for 19k commission.

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They know actually what they are doing before the raids come out,it’s a rush they can care less how or who will do them.

Things to consider when adding a new and exciting feature to the game:

  1. Horrible people exist in this world.
  2. They will try to exploit others.
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I would have invited the developers of public crafting order system to drive for Uber Eats for a couple of weeks, without the option to decline incoming deliveries.

It’d be fun to see how many drive-30-miles-for-$3 deliveries they can get through before it dawns on them that people suck at tipping.

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