What Are Shaman and Warlocks getting? What are they taking from Pallys? HR discussion

SO! HARDCORE!

Shaman and Warlock losing very important pieces from their class dynamic.

Soul Stone and Ank will not be a functional mechanic.

What are these classes getting as a replacement?

Are Pallys getting their bubbles taken away? I feel like it would only be fair to remove that if the horde are losing such a vital component to their hero class

lol too hardcore for you? Maybe you need softer core.

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Yes, Paladins will not be able to bubble+hearth.

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I dont play HR. Im just wondering because soul stone and Ank are big class features.

They are removing a core function of the class without adding anything in return.

Why should a warlock and shaman get handicapped?

Because if they aren’t then everyone will roll a shaman or lock and the realm would be imbalanced.

Think it through first.

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What is the mechanic to replace them though?

Those are serious class features and talent options

HC is HC dont bother asking about what they do or not do. You either play it or you dont. =)

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Just wondering what is being done to fill the hole in 2 classes identities

Its a pretty big gap that should be replaced with something of value for those 2 classes

Nothing. All ankh is is a ressurect. It’s not a dynamic feature. The HC mode is if u die your char is done so why would ankh matter

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Its being replaced with the ability to die just like everyone else.

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Ank and soul stones are staple features of the class and offer talents for them as well

What is the hunter losing?
Mage?
Rogue?
Warrior?

Nothing. Those classes will function identically

Why does the horde hero class get slapped down and gain nothing in return?

if you rely on soulstone, ankh, or bubblehearth to play you probably suck anyway

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You get… nothing :frowning:

It’s part of the kit that the classes have.

You can Soul Stone other people to create a mutually beneficial relationship

Or you can ankh to save your crew from an otherwise defeated situation

I am not saying that they SHOULD or SHOULDNT be removed.

I am saying that they ARE being removed, and those classes arent getting anything to replace those abilities

Easy:

  • Hunter: kiting Teremus to SW
  • Rogue: ganking by accidental flagging
  • Mage: dungeon farming / boosting
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None of those things are a specific skill (with the option to enhance with talents) getting turned off for the sake of a game mode, and then not replaced

Cope buddy, they’ll do absolutely nothing about it.

  • don’t take those talents
  • don’t play the game mode if you feel like you need those talents

simple as that

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A lot of core rogue class abilities are PVP focused. Same as some specs from other classes. They will not give bonuses to spriests or ele shamans because they can’t do battlegrounds where those specs shine.

Warlocks and shamans are still among the best open world levellers, and this is far more important in hardcore than say, warriors’ strengths (struggling when levelling and being top DPS only after getting high end PVE or PVP gear).

I leveled 1-60 without ever learning zerker stance. It’s not a struggle. Warriors are overtuned and should rightfully have their peak performance lowered.