Tanking about those that hate being heores. If you want to be as unimportant to the overall quest and insignificant compared to npc heroes. Then that means your baseline ablities is common among all the people in the world.
I like being a champion in mop. A general in wod. Highlord in Legion and now i am floating steady as a friend and confidant of jiana anduin and greymane.
Epiphany: After reading all the comments belove. I believe( …and correct me if i am wrong) that you want warcraft to be like warhammer and not lord of the rings.
Warhammer is just a setting. There is no real story moving it forward. Dawn of war happens. Ultra marines stories happend.all of the black library happens. And in the end it doesnt affect crap until rhe next compendium is released. despite everthing you do it is meaningless against the over reaching. Plot movers like Karl Franz should always be heard not scene.
Vs Lord of the ring where you are like the fellowship and have to save the world. The plot moves and your hero evolves with the story.
MY TAKE: again i dont get the whole calling people special snow flakes. Since vanilla there has been a steady growth of the player character.
For two year we started out as a grunt but rose through the ranks. Our armor reflects that. Stuff like tier gears show our elite status. By the time all was sad and done. We had confront and elemental lord. Deathwing son, took out an old god in part of a war and finally stop the scourge invasion. Something the hero units in wc central failed to do.
Then tbc hits and you are ask to go through rhe dark portal to stop the demon invasion. You have recgonition and noterity at that point.
After tbc came Wotlk. You are now recgonized by mostly everyone as said by the recruiter. You were there and instrumental in bringing down the lich king. If your fame have not grown by that point thar ment any tom dick and harry could have stood in the same room as Arthas?
Then there is deathwing the sha etc etc.
Should we as players never get to fight illidan but hear about his demise in a quest text? Would we have fought some mid teir general as rhe final boss to make you guys happy?
What about arthas? Should the blood queen has been the final boss and tirion just say in a quest text arthas was defeated?
But yeah… different strokes for different folks. Not everyone wants to play an all-important super hero. Some of us just want to be the person on the ground because we find that more compelling, or there are more RP opportunities, etc.
The real people, anyway; clearly we’re not anywhere near ‘powerful’ enough to take on a faction leader alone so why would we be heroes if we need raids to down bosses?
There is a middle ground between average person and near mythical hero of the world. Adventurers are above average individuals with abilities/power/knowledge above the common person, but still below those heroes that everyone looks up to. Adventurers cover a wide range of power levels, starting from a gifted commoner who is just a cut above the rest, to just below the heroes of the world.
This range allows for a much wider variety of RP options. Variety is the spice of life after all.
Well because if I wanted to be playing a single player game I’d be playing a single player game. And as a single player game there are just much much better RPG’s than WoW.
Good for you. I like feeling that I start out knowing nothing and gain in knowledge, skill and power as I journey and explore the world. Even if the quests are primitive, they still tell a loosely unified story that allow me to RP along in my head.
It’s nice that Blizzard is bringing back the old game so that everyone can enjoy their preferred style, right?
Because if you’re a hero or something, you’re locked into being morally good and that’s normally such a boring story, your character is set in something that you can’t experiment with and make really telling, or philosophical, story’s etc.
I don’t think I ever cared how I was perceived by my NPC friends. I’m a very basic fellow; I see quest, I do it and turn it in. I see boss, I kill it and loot. I saved the day? Well so did another few million people lol.
It’s more of a sense of scale than anything, for me anyway.
Think of it like this. In Legion you are the catalyst and one of the biggest factors for defeating Sargeras, one of the most powerful beings in the universe… Where do you really go from there? You can’t really.
That was the inherent problem with WoW. They only had so many compelling villains for us to defeat, and we have now pretty much killed most of them. Sure, there is an old god or two left, and we might have the void lords… But the old gods were always rekt in previous expansions, not even qualifying as final raid tier end bosses; not exactly threatening.
As for the void lords? They don’t seem particularly compelling or well-established; you got to have those traits for a good villain.
It’s weird how it’s all set up especially with level boosts.
If you’re new and take the boost everybody automatically refers to as champion and needs your strength and references a point in the game you’ve never played through.
NPCs talk to us like we’re the Justice League and send us out on missions meant for the Teen Titans.
It’s not limited to WoW. One knock against Skyrim is that your character can be the best at everything. Thane of every city, a hero to Nords and the Empire, Head of the Thieves’ Guild, the Mage College and on and on. A few different mods alter the storyline so that you start out as a common schmuck without innate powers and skirt the main storyline. Many of us just want to be a behind the scenes badass.
My big eye-roll moment from trying retail again was when I became besties with Sylvanas and sent to attend high-level meetings after killing a few dozen low-level mobs.
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