I just got my BM to 645 ilvl and decided to do some 2s. I didn’t die, but my god I feel so squishy and reliant on my healer so I feel like I’m missing something.
I’ve played both hero talents and my general rotation is KS > fire breath > BK > TP > RSK.
I only use crane kick when I’m not playing shado pan.
I clear stagger when it reaches red. I’ve had issues getting my stagger to actually get that high so it feels weird using the brews to clear such smaller stagger amounts.
Is there something obvious to you guys that seems like I’m misunderstanding or just completely missing because if not, BM feels awful compared to the other tanks this season.
The rotation you described works for MOH. Crane Kick should be used in AOE for Shado-Pan (the opposite of what’s written).
If you’re just doing 2s, I would recommend running Shado-Pan for more damage output. I think that MOH may not generate enough vitality if you’re not consistently getting high purifies, but I could be wrong, this is just my personal opinion.
It is indeed the worst tank by any metric right now. Health potions become a regularly used kind of thing in pugs.
It’s not impossibly bad, it should be totally fine for 2s and there are people doing 15s with BRM, so it’s likely that they may be doing things that you aren’t, including:
Stat Priority:
I recommend checking if your stat priority is right. This makes a huge difference. It’s Agility > Crit >= Vers > Mastery > Haste.
Haste is a pretty bad stat for us.
Talents:
You’ll have to check some of the profiles on raider.io or wacraftlogs for their talents. Filter by highest and grab their build. There are monks playing both MOH and Shado-Pan. MOH is preferred if you have the 4 piece tier set, otherwise Shado-Pan is better.
There are some people still running Shado-Pan despite the 4 piece though, and I don’t fully understand why. I do kinda feel like my damage is more consistent with Shado-Pan. I think the choice here doesn’t make or break runs.
In either way, prepare yourself to have a harder time than playing other tanks. That’s just how it is right now.
it’s a crit based tank; so unless you gear toward crit and get good expel harms; yes you going to struggle.
you also gotta vivify self through the instant cast alot thus more crit reliance
Brewmaster here! Last season I got all keys to ++11 and stopped. 300+ keys total ran. I’d recommend my build tbh.
I’m by no means some top tier player, but I’ve gotten a lot of positive feedback from 3k+ IO healers on my performance in keys.
Swap to Shadopan
Learn to weave in Vivify - keybind it for self use.
Learn to purify your stagger when your health is actually missing, as it heals.
Learn your Blackout Combo kick (BOK) combinations. Most common one will be BOK+Tiger Palm, but you may find yourself using BOK+Keg to get extra CDR on brews if need be.
No need to spin-to-win too much, as it’s very low damage and wasted time as you could be Tiger Palming and Keg Smashing, as both reduce cooldowns on your brews.
Maintain Charred Passions uptime closer to 100%
Use your Celestial Brew more often.
Rotate cooldowns every pack
Niuzao is a very strong defensive cooldown. (and offensive too)
Watch your sphere count for Expel Harm. 4-5 orbs top you off from 20%.
SCK is your filler spell and initial couple ticks on get some basic threat. But its garbo. Especially if its used without Charred Passions.
But while I have stopped playing brew, I’m 636ilvl and I went into +2 and it felt rough. But still at almost 1mil overall DPS in a key and pretty high self healing values, especially wth the use of Vivify on self.
Get used to it. A lot of buttons.
The hardest part of brew is to really learn best times to use ur Purifying brew. Just because it’s red, doesn’;t mean u nee to pop it.
I think this is true if you’re running MOH, but what are you doing in AOE situations as Shado Pan if not spinning/keg smashing for damage? E.g. why prefer Tiger Palm in that situation?
afaik SCK does not contribute to Shadow Pan energy spent counter for Flurry.
Tiger palm reduces CD on brews as well. iirc, TP in ST with BOK is stronger than SKC on 4 or 5 targets raw damage amount wise. I could be wrong tho.
I use CKS only with combination of charred passions and very little as a filler and initial grab. My overall per key damage was 1mil in S1. While definitely with room for improvement, it’s definitely in the upper
oh really? I very well could be wrong.
In SL, SKC was great. Didn’t play DF. But in TWW, I find it to be hella underwhelming. Low dps, practucally zero threat.
TP st damage has a solud damage with good spot threat.
I’ve found my overall DPS and threat management skyrocket once I’ve stopped relying on SCK.