What about elemental shaman?

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21:39:28> Lava Burst hits for 9,357 Fire.(Critical)
21:39:29> Lava Burst hits for 7,460 Fire.(Critical)
21:39:29> Lava Burst hits for 9,517 Fire.(Critical)
21:39:29> Lightning Bolt hits for 8,350 Nature.
21:39:29> Eternal Insight hits for 831 Shadow.
21:39:30> Lightning Bolt Overload hits for 9,037 Nature.(9,150 Absorbed) (Critical)

That’s 53702 damage in basically a GCD, delegated to RNG. Sublime game design from a multi billion company with over a decade of MMO experience.

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they have alot of settup globals for it

if you see echoing shock/primordial tell your healer to press cleanse on the flameshock

you will not die

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That’s a hell of a lot of ignored setup ya’ got listed there.

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Sure wish I had access to cleanse and all of this didn’t take just a few seconds to “set up” while I’m stunned.

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Kinda looks like the only thing that was RNG here was that Lightning Bolt Overload crit, and potentially a lava surge proc.

Assuming you let the ele get their full setup going without cc/interrupt/LoS means you let them:

  1. Primordial wave (14s to use it or lose it)
  2. Storm keeper cast (~1.3 second cast and 14s to use ir or lose 2 charges)
  3. Skyfury (assuming no one targeted it and killed it)
  4. Echoing shock (7s to use it or lose it)
  5. Cast a lava burst (unless they luckily got a lava surge proc) followed by lightning bolt(s)

Additionally, this means that your TEAM did not:

  1. CC the ele during the “use it or lose it” time
  2. LoS – IF you have Flame Shock debuff on you, AND ele got 1-5 off THEN you are vulnerable to a “1-shot” IF you dont pop a defensive
  3. Pop defensives
  4. Dispel flame shock after step 1. NOTE: Flame shock being dispelled REALLY hurts the ele, especially after step 4, because then they may have to waste echoing shock on a Flame Shock or Primordial wave if they want LB to crit.
  5. Interrupt stormkeeper if you aren’t ready to deal with the burst, or LoS

Getting “1-shot” is frustrating, no doubt. But note how much setup and counter play there is IF you know what to look for. If you’re letting the ele free cast, make sure you throw in some disruptions to their big go.

Also for what it’s worth, usually there is a fire ele meteor dropped on your head after (5), but it looks like he showed “mercy”. Good luck in future games.

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Solid breakdown

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The same way hunters hate their 4 gcds to burst into a channeled spell that can be interrupted its the exact same thing pm except instead of a channel you dispel a debuff.

Favorite thing is grounding or interrupting a hard cast lava burst and watch the Ele sigh when echoing shock falls off.

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This was on a protection paladin by the way.

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tanks take additional damage in pvp

whoever was playing prot pal deserved it then

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I guess we should either just become metazombies or don’t bother with 2v2 at all.

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Exactly. There’s reason blizzard abandoned the bracket

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If you see skyfury, kill it ASAP. If you see stormkeeper, line it till it falls off.

And always dispel the flame shock if you see primordial wave go out. If flame shock isn’t on his kill target, the lava bursts won’t crit.

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RNG baby.
I’ve heard Fmage and lock could do something similar based on good RNG

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The increased damage they take is hilarious

so much for playing tank when I just divine tolled the 65k hp prot across the map and he got yoinked at 25 yds omegalul pls ban tanks from arena

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yah on my rsham if i see a ele doing his setup and hes hardcasting a lava burst without ccing me i ground the whole thing and i can feel his face turn into a frown thru the screen

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Ele always goes under the radar as sleeper s tier, played a lot in awc they should get some tuning

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And after today’s patch they are going to hit even harder.

Their buffs are going under the radar due to the Exploiter buff to warriors, which has been brought back to BAU and not an issue anymore (which I fully support).

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You think Ele/Aff will be good now for purge protection after aff buffs and Hpal shadow aura nerfs?

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psure even if flame shock gets cleansed from primordial wave that you can just cast another flame shock after your lava burst with echo and it batches the crit

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yeh but flame shock eats your echoing shock