What a joke. 15s instead of 20s for Mythics

Im not sure why you are saying that like it is a good thing. Believe it or not, WoW needs “Andys” to stick around so that they can keep paying the bills.

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When you have people like the druid who’s only defense is “I do it for fun”. But then complains about loot among other things. Thats the point. >.>

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Damn you destroyed the mythic raider that doesn’t mythic raid there

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Anyways, like always with M+ whining. I get my popcorn and watch the show. So I’m out of this topic. lol

Dont bother replying back, topics muted and I wont be seeing it.

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The obvious answer is players run keys over 15 to improve their score which in turn makes it easier to get in better groups with more chance of success.

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Why would I not be excited about the mountain becoming a greater challenge?

I want Keystone Hero to reflect a greater challenge. Right now it means nothing. Any semi-competent player can get KSH and there’s a vast rift between KSH and Rank 1 without meaningful markers along the way.

It would be like nothing existing between AOTC and Hall of Fame. Most “Mythic Raiders” live in the zone where they strive for or attain CE, with only very very few caring about HoF since it is so far away.

For M+ players this means exact season you can gun for KSH and feel that was a worthy goal and challenge without feeling obligated to push for Rank 1.

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Yes, but you are only going to stand out of the crowd if your IO is significantly higher, which 200 points is not. 2000 and 2200 is basically the same thing and I would overlook either of them.

Omg, you guys love to flaunt these numbers lol. Nobody knows how many people are actually playing the dang game, so those figures are absolutely meaningless.

60k players out of how many active subs? If WoW has 1 million active subs or more, those numbers are paltry compared to how many people are playing.

Show me real data instead cherry picking stats from a third party website.

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Did you forget that you brought up percentages? Which means numbers matter.

You mean RIO which uses Blizzards API? RIO data is Blizzard’s data.

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Where did I bring up percentages? You got the wrong person homey.

Are you blind or just back peddling hard?

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I have never seen anyone on this forum get presented with data and change their mind. It is always a gimmick to waste the other persons time or try to hide after this argument fell over. You don’t need to jump through hoops to prove this person wrong, lol. We know they are wrong.

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Yeah, a small % of the total population of the game lol. I never mentioned any concrete figure here.

I’m not about to get into with you guys here. You guys are in cult here. Completely blind and biased here.

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Like you said we don’t know the overall population size, but you were clearly talking about the M+ population. You specifically stated that only a small % of M+ players go beyond +15, which is loot cut off. To which I showed you clear data of how at least 40% go 200 points higher than needed. Don’t try to move the goal post or back peddle because you don’t know what you are talking about.

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So you don’t mythic raid or run mythic plus according to your achievements, also you don’t bring any numbers to back up your arguments

Why do you have a bone in this fight at all?

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Ah yes, the classic strawman!!

That’s not what a strawman is. Classic evasive and defensive behavior. I’ll take that as you admitting you were wrong.

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Well, you have convinced me to make sure my auto-renew is turned off. Need to make sure that I don’t accidentally pay for content that is going to “mop the floor” with me.

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an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent’s real argument.

Yeah, that is a strawman argument.

Edit: I love how you posted on your alt too Sosari lol. Trying to get around my ignore list.

Do what you feel you have to do.

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