I enjoy my Monk, so I leveled him up this weekend to 68. Thought he was OK.
Then today I jumped on my BDK…
I HATE being slow…but the difference in tanking ability was night and day (both had exact gear, primalist invasion catchup stuff).
My DKs healthbar didn’t move at all…meanwhile I was struggling with BM, but figured it was normal….and I’ve played BM…I know stagger, purifying, celestial brew shields. Even took the healing brew and insta Vivify for extra healing….
There’s something seriously wrong with BMs. I get the idea that they rely more on a healer, but they don’t even feel tanky until you’re almost dead, and alot of stuff procs.
Maybe I’m wrong on this, but they just feel lacking in sustaining their healthbar.
Damage on the other hand seems pretty good for a tank, especially AOE, but at the end of the day I want to survive and not be a mana sponge on the healer.
Guardian seemed amazing too, but I hate Bearbutt, and DH is cool, but I hate the theme.
Really wanted to like BM, but after fooling around on my DK, I realize it’s alot of work, for not much payoff.
Stagger is poop. They should revamp it or give us better (NOT MORE) tools to lessen the damage.
Thing is, the BrewMaster TAKES FULL DAMAGE …
No mitigation except stagger
But stagger is applying overtime as a dot, so basically if you aren’t purifying stagger at 60k-100k, then you going to take the full hit, but sometimes the stagger dot goes so fast that you’re stuck at 10-20k and a 20sec wasted on so little
It’s even worst when it comes to magic damage. Which doesn’t stagger much I think.
Your hp be like at 20% and your stagger is like at 20k
Woopie, purified 10k … Ooo so tanky and so going to live
Mastery is also poop since you can’t dodge magic.
All in all … They should just remove monk from wow imo
There is a clear bias @ blizzard towards monks.
Basically the same thing how minority are treated
Alas, monk players can relate to minority oppression if they themselves aren’t a minority IRL lol
PS
you’re better off playing monk in the last season where your stats looks like this
Yeah so they say, but I don’t see them in raids or rarely in regular heroics except me.
Yeah they have a mitigation that reduces spike damage by roughly 60% like … once every 2 mins?
yeah it’s cool to list a strong point of a class, but it’s not being utilized 50% of the time, so is it even worth mentioning?
PS
You still take full damage, the other half is just being taken over 10 seconds. That means if there is 3-4 consecutive big hits with 4 seconds between hits. You are going to die if healers can’t heal you up fast enough if there is a 5th big hit incomming.
So 20 full seconds of your raid healers not healing you? That sounds reasonable to you?
The whole point of stagger is damage smoothing. Require more healing but the damage is smooth so there are no spike damages that need instant reactions.
Stagger is a passive that it many cases can be used to not die to tank busters.
The only time I see tank die from tank busters is literally because of the tanks fault. Tank Busters is not what people make it out to be
DK can just heal the damage back or use Defensives to "Smooth"out the damage
Prot warrior takes less damage than most tanks or use Defensives to "Smooth"out the damage
Prot Pally can just heal it back or use defensives to “Smooth” out the damage
Druids can just heal it back or use Defensives to "Smooth"out the damage
I mean we must compare the Brewmasters to other classes to see if they are comparable right?
Whatever you think Brewmasters can do. The other classes can do better, but if you feel that they can’t. Then i guess they can’t and it’s all just opinions at this point.
Guess we’ll leave it for healers to decide which tanks make them work the most
I dunno, I’m not really having any problems. I think that might start to change with m+ and larger damage profiles, but right now brm is feeling plenty survivable to me.
I’d say the biggest change coming from last season is how automatic healing was with the set bonus healing from keg smash. Brewmaster is now VERY active, but if you’re rolling through all of your defensives at a steady pace, it helps a lot. I’m still able to solo bosses if everyone dies.
It’s a lot more work than blood dk or guardian druid, but brewmasters are also doing crazy damage. I’m pushing like 30k+ overall.
by doing damage, he means a well timed explosive keg (More effort).
Needs to be timed good with what blizzard is hating tanks and nerfing them 10% for doing (except prot warriors, they get a 5% instead) or else your dps is still the same as any xpac or worst.
Most of the time (barring borrowed power shenanigans) healers will do less damage then tanks so a healer doing less damage for a tank to do more is probably a better trade then you’re giving it.
debatable, when the healer can’t do any damage at all whatsoever it’s not a better trade, not to mention taxing the healer’s mana can make them have to drink more which makes you have to sometimes wait for healer mana.
the point was that the healer did less damage, not zero. If the healer literally couldn’t do any damage that’d be a problem but I highly doubt that’s the situation at play.
As for healer mana, eh, if it causes timer problems sure but waiting for mana shouldn’t be seen as a huge issue.
Prot wars got 10% they just took 5% from two different sources. All tanks took a 10% nerf to the face. At least the Devs managed to make sure there was no chance monk wouldn’t be dog crap compared to other tanks. By now, I have to believe the Devs are either braindead or they have explicitly chosen to make Monks the worst tank. Either way I just cancelled. They demonstrate their inability to balance their game, or even barely understand it. It won’t always be monk, but there will always be clueless tuning in this game. They are incapable of balancing like professionals. They balance like a fanfic writer, Mary Sue warriors and broken monks getting the same tweaks.
Im actually curious now about a post I read about taking SM talents and statue, with a weird rotation…sure its not optimal, but is an interesting take, and has interesting solo applications.
I still believe they are just suboptimal overall, but its funny i thought about that build for a second, and just never tried it out.
Tanking we are just screwed until they buff us, dont care what perfect grouped, guild tanks say…thats just Toxic thinking.
Im interested as well because in a plus seven my stagger is creeping up to 300k plus and as soon as i clear its right back. and this week add packs are more dangerous than bosses except the ancient in aa he spawns adds and one gives dmg debuff others stack massive amounts of Poison all the while your taking the big tank hit from boss.