My average overall is between 4.8-5.3k on m12 and 13, depends on the pulls. But usually around 4.7- 5k. Been wanting to try 14 and maybe 15, not sure if that an good overall for 14 or 15.
It will change in each dungeon, each affix and how the tank pulls.
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I pull 4k without trying, but I still won’t set foot in Mythics so I have no idea. I looked at the screen once for pre-mades and it was intimidating. Full of WTS, and DON’T BE TRASH, need tank and healer only, mages only, ect.
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My experience so far in 12 and 13 the tank always do a big pulls and I’m loving it.
In a typical dungeon, if you’re doing 4.5k - 5k then as the healer I’m happy. Seen upwards of 7-8k in Mists on fort week, and seen a lot lower in ToP which is not hospitable to flattering dps numbers. But on average it sounds like you’re doing plenty of dps to get KSM. As long as you’re not trolling mechanics.
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Too many factors to say. The pattern of your pulls, the other DPS in the group and their damage profiles, which dungeon, and affixes will all play a part in your overall DPS. Watch PoVs of someone really good at M+ like Asuna in PUGs and compare your decision making to his without thinking so much about the overall number.
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You’re fine. Don’t let anyone tell you different. There are times that on something like spires, our highest overall dps is like 3.5k effective time, and it’s a timed 15. It really comes down to the dungeon and pulls.
However, most bosses you should be over 4k. Try to combust pride whenever possible. Use timewarp in the best spots and as many times per run as you can, and you’ll be all set.
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anything over 4k with doing mechanics correctly should work.
Last week we were timing 15-16-17s with 5.0k to 7.0k dps overall. this week my overall dps dropped down 1k . because adds don’t survive long enough to apply my balance druid dots.
you are fine if you know the mechanics.
I have seen that we did 5.8k 5k and 3.8k dps as 3 people and we timed.
Thats more than fine for 14-17s
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That’s pretty good! I do about that much (more or less depending on how much the tank pulls) and I got KSM! I believe in you!
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You’re more than capable of timing 15s if you’re pushing 4k+ dps while also using your utility.
If you’re just slamming your 4 button dps rotation and letting mobs finish all their casts then it’s no wonder your dps is high; you’re not “wasting” gcds in utility.
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This is a hard question to answer, since the overall numbers will vary based on the week/affixes, and how big the pulls are. For example, Fire Mages don’t shine if you’re doing small pulls, but their numbers will grossly inflate if you’re doing mega pulls start to finish.
I’ve said that you can time every +15 with about 4.4k DPS overall on all 3 DPS (with the tank contributing decently, and the healer some). But this is speaking on a scenario of good pace, no deaths, and balanced DPS (AoE/ST).
As a Fury warrior, my performance is pretty middle of the road. I can easily be outdone by better cleave classes (Boomkins, Fire mages, hunters on occasion), and single target (Boomkins, MM hunters, Asn Rogues, UDKs) due to my weak cooldowns for burst. However, I perform well, and with a 224 iLvl I’m rolling with 5.6-6.3k overall DPS in dungeons that aren’t absolutely meta stacked for pulls above my AoE cap.
However, when building a group and trying to gauge your damage numbers you need to take into consideration the single target and AoE performance of your comp. Fire mages and Boomkins annihilate big pulls, but their single target isn’t amazing if their cooldowns aren’t up. Likewise, Havoc DH can beat me on shorter fights because of Metamorphosis duration, but I’m well above them if it drags on longer.
If you want to be on the safe side, 2x 5k DPS, and 1x 4.4k for sure. Given that it’s Tyrannical week right now, you want to lean more towards single target to bring down the stronger bosses in a reasonable time frame. Trash won’t (or shouldn’t) be a problem.
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You are right in fort week my overall is lots higher than this week
I noticed in spires my overall is around 3.8-4.1 k
Thank you all for the inputs, imma try at least 14 this week
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How do you know how much overall dps you do if you don’t do mythics? Dmg meters from normals/heroics or even raids do not translate to mythic+10 dps.
You can get away with doing 4.5-5k overall for +15s, but that is on the lower side.
Good luck timing a +17 with 5k dps.
4.5-5k is not on the lower side, especially after the dungeon nerfs.
The three dps were doing ~4k in my first timed 15 back in January.
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Look at your 13’s. If you feel 13’s are cake and you’ve been carrying +13 groups beating them all on time and dominating the damage meters, that’s the time you go for +14’s and +15’s. There is no point of going for +14 and +15 if you are still struggling at +13.
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The ideal is infinite damage.
This is good enough to get KSM.
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You’re right, which is WHY I pointed out I don’t do mythics. Thought that was obvious. But considering I’m Frost as DPS and most of my damage is AoE, I’m certain it would be significantly higher on pack pulls than 4k. That’s just my ST dmg. AOE I’ve hit 8 or 9k in LFR without really trying.