We've been utterly LIED to about Layering

No layering doesn’t mean server merges or CRZ. It means no layering.

You don’t have to replace layering with anything.

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You clearly don’t understand how programming works. Let me provide an example for you, a simple single target frost bolt would call for way fewer calculations than blizzard on a group of people. Just by the amount of damage that is being calculated per person, and their resist and miss rolls, as well as the casters crit rolls.

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No, you don’t see. Layering could swapped out for anything. It was used based on the thread topic.

Your wording is all you, nothing in my post says what you said.

It means that a few months in, realms are dead and people are crying out for “server merges” or free transfers off dead realms. And when Blizzard hears merge, they think CRZ.

Very much the opposite. I am a developer.

No, you are obv not.

It’s pointless since you ignored everything I said about modern server infrastructure. I could show you my flipping Linkedin page but it would not satisfy a person who thinks servers and game infrastructure is built upon unicorn farts.

You can think whatever you want man. At the end of the day does it really matter?

It’s just a baseless claim man, I could show you 20 devs linkdin page, so?

Why do I think it’s no coincidence that the alternative example you describe as reasonable is one praising layering?

If your issue is really with spamming regardless of the topic, you wouldn’t have specified anti-layering, as it draws focus away from what you really care about. You think anti-layering is unreasonable.

Wrong. That’s what “add hundreds of more realms to deal with the initial launch population” means.

No layering doesn’t mean “add more realms.” It means no layering.

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So you’re in the fantasy that the population will grow and never recede?

Haha, blizz made sure that won’t happen. And no, that isn’t his claim, you made that up yourself. Strawman.

No, quite the opposite. I suspect the initial population will probably by the highest ever. It might grow eventually, but it will be a huge surge of players with a rapid drop off before that.

Hold my beer while I go dl more ram. haha.

Actually yes. Classic is so much better than Retail I’m almost positive we’re going to see an OSRS effect where Classic is 4x as big as retail

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To be fair, OSRS receives regular content updates, and Classic won’t after a point.

Also, RS3 and OSRS combined barely make up a fraction of the player base WoW used to have. It’s a lot easier to have a player base 4x as big when you’ve only got 20k people playing.

So, massive queues then?

As opposed to layering? Absolutely. I’d rather wait to play the game I want than play a different game with no line.

For an initial launch, there will be queues, yes. That’s to be expected. After a day or two at most, those queues are gone (or much smaller) as players start to log in at different times and the player base actually spreads out.

Then the game isn’t ruined with layering, even if it’s only temporary, and there’s no dead realms down the line.

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I find it very telling that you interpret that post as a praise of layering.

It’s actually an ambiguous sentence. Acknowledging the reason for layering does not denote acceptance. Ignoring or brushing aside Blizzard’s reason is unreasonable.

Just as you did here. You are either ignoring or brushing aside the consequences.

Not adding more realms means bloating server populations which leads to solutions like dynamic spawns, which has consequences.

How is that not pro-layering sentiment?

You’re saying anti-layering threads being spammed is unreasonable, but a well articulated thread explaining why Blizzard is using layering is reasonable.

But fine, someone could acknowledge the reason Blizzard does something while not agreeing with it. Sure.

I’m not ignoring the consequences. I simply want vanilla as it was back in the day, “warts and all.”

The limited amount of people that could play on a realm at a single time meant in vanilla that they needed more realms or people had to wait, or both.

While I totally understand, and actually agree with, not wanting dead realms down the line, I do not believe ruining the game by changing it is a worth it just because people don’t want queues.

Wrong. No layering means no layering. It doesn’t mean dynamic spawns.

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