Were Warriors ever good?

Take away Mortal Strike and Shield Block, what do you really have? A class that is based off a broken notion. The idea that heavy armor and martial prowess makes you dangerous or hard to kill.

Blizzard has done a marvelous job of making this classic Fantasy role into every other classes chew toy and less desirable to play.

Shield Block doesn’t even seem to mitigate Rogue damage - which is melee…which is the only thing Shield Block can actually block! (Could be wrong, just seems that way in PvP)

There was a 15 month window at the very beginning where Warrior was a fun class and since then Blizz has done as much as possible to nerf and bland the entire class while creating other tanking classes that are more desirable in PvE and PvP.

In addition to creating talents for other classes that completely neuter what was once considered an archetype combat class. What’s the point of mages wearing cloth if they have a frozen shield that’s better than armor?? Why then can’t mages pick up a sword and learn to fight and be some kind of War Wizard?

Why do Paladins have the ability to passively generate aggro from multiple mobs while warriors have to actively do so. Multiple taunts? Not with warriors. Didn’t we use to have a shout that taunted multiple targets? Seems that was too OP for basic content.

Why can hunters divert my toons focus to their … 3 different pets now?? But, my taunt on players is just over the top to implement… (Don’t get me wrong, certainly appreciate you fixing the whole “Hunters rolled on my f**king 2h weapon” thing)

We all know Blizz can balance things if they want. But, just like Facebook they are incentivized to create an ever shifting sands of OP classes and nerfstick merry-go-round in which to draw you in to waste more time.

Otherwise, why not just stick with what you got and focus on story, game play, new content, social dynamics, real-world integrations and additional classes?

I actually focused on upping my weapon skill. A lot of good that did. While other classes lost their inhibiting reagent requirements for things like slow fall. Didn’t that used to require a feather? We used to say “TY” to mages for food cause it actually cost them something.

Were Warriors ever good? Seems they were once just fun to play - and that seems a long time ago. (When all this was nothing but orange groves, far as the eye could see.)

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Prot is literally one of the best tanks in the game right now. What are you even talking about? If you don’t like the class go play something else. This post is entirely pointless.

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LOL, thanks, homie. I don’t take the game or myself too seriously. But, I love when people like you show up.

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I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again.

Warrior is the dark souls of wow

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The answer to your question “Were warriors ever good?” is yes. All the time. They’re one of the best tank classes now, they were the best DPS class by a mile for Antorus. They’ve pretty much been among the best DPS classes for just about every expansion since Wrath. Your question is literally pointless and ignorant.

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Thanks for the feedback. All I was looking for was input and perspective. I find it disappointing you feel the need to insult while sharing your opinion.

The internet isn’t real interaction - I hope you have a better way to communicate with people in real life.

I completely disagree with the basic statement you’re making, but thanks for the actual contribution! Will think on it.

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Before they gave healing debuffs to everyone warriors were good, nigh essential for arena for the mortal strike. They’ve been up and down in both pve and PvP performance ever since wrath, which can be said for almost every spec, but the class was untouchable in vanilla and BC which cannot be said for every class.

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What kind of drugs are you on?

Prot warriors aren’t THE BEST, they’re competitive with other tanks right now.

Arms and Fury are like Baron Rivendare’s Runeblade drop chance.
98% awful
2% outstanding

2% of the warrior DPS population do not determine the overall power of the class.

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That’s true of any class and Prot is definitely hands down the best for M+ right now and it’s 2nd best competing for the best in raid.

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I have seen prot warriors do more aoe dps than dps. Yep pulling 35k on aoe mobs mean they are the best in m+ right now.

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Prot is excellent now in m+ no doubt. It’s like having 4 dps when clearing big groups of trash and reaping. Fury is doing ok but could use a bump in damage or group utility. Arms is just a hot mess and needs lots of help, but maybe blizzard accidentally fired their class dev team along with the others last month.

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Not solo, there were the best with a pocket healer

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Protection is in its rightful spot, extreamly sturdy and can do massive amounts of dmg.

There is your answer, yes we are good, no we are not once we where however

In patch 7.0 prot was so powerfull that all other tanks QQed into getting it nerfed

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I’ve played Warrior off and on since Vanilla and I can say that yes they have definitely been good. In Vanilla Warriors were literally the only viable class for tanking. Druids and Paladins were laughably bad.

I vaguely recall a point in Cata where prot warriors were busted in PvP. I was playing Shaman at the time so I could be wrong. It was something like they had a skill that reflected damage or absorbed and returned damage. When it was used on players it gave them absurd damage output combined with their high survivability they were busted in arena. Again I was playing Shaman from Cata-WoD so I could be mistaken on this one.

Just as recently as the last raid Arms Warriors were amazing DPS options. Their cleave options synced up perfectly with all the adds in the raid.

Right now Prot is considered one of the best tanking options for mythics.

So yeah they were definitely good before and now. I’ll give you that Arms and Fury are both terrible right now. As an Arms Warrior myself I am struggling.

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He didn’t say “the best,” he said “one of the best.” We are #1 in M+, skyrocketing to the top of the meter within the Avatar window; we are probably #2 in raiding. What he said is objectively correct.

Arms and fury are both bursty as all get out for single- and multi-target, making them very strong in M+. They run middle-to-upper range in raid, though they lack utility aside from mobility.

Get some progression under your belt before you argue things you don’t understand.

Also, are you aware that your name is pronounced “sslackhand?”

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Warriors require practice to master. Demon Hunters on the other hand are the easiest dps in the game right now.

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As someone who is playing prot warrior now, it’s significantly easier than vengeance

People dont know how good they have it these days. Druids and pallys were so bad at tanking because they literally didn’t have an even close to complete toolset to do so. Fury and arms warriors could tank everything better then druids or pallys who super min/maxed, and even in progression raid content fury/arms were fine as offtanks.

All the tanks have a niche right now. Prot just has the biggest niche. And yes, they are the best m+ tank.

You people say that, I look at Jaina.