Youre the one who claimed tanks numbers were struggling, and then failed to provide any data to back your claim
“But grok pulled from raider.io”
So did the post i linked…with actual numbers and not just a claim. But for some reason, the exact same excuse you use to “provide proof” doesnt work when i use it.
Funny how that works.
Where did I say that?
Can you at least retrieve that data to back this claim?
You posted a link to the front page of Raider IO 
I provided proof. I copied and pasted the discussion I had with Grok. It’s not like you’re unable to use Grok yourself.
I provided data to back my claim.
Imagine having over 20,580 posts and getting owned by someone with 96 posts
Is a druid.
Does not play Tank or Healer
Complains about not being able to get into groups
I mean, i get enjoying playing DPS, but in the current M+ economy DPS are a dime for 2 dozen. Switch to tank or Healer, you will enjoy getting like 6 dungeons in that same 4 hours.
I play tanks almost exclusively, so YMMV. I queued into groups for like 10 minutes. No one would take me. I was 627-633 from last season (and not a vdh or prot pally).
So I ran my own key. Got up to +10 in a few runs. Swapped to another toon, ran with a partial premade I found. So I was able to get 1 vault on two dudes.
Now I’m holding a +10 key but still can’t get invited to +6 cuz I’m playing bear and DK this season. Pug life is fickle that way. Everyone is convinced they need that meta tank.
And as a tank queuing my own key, I’m only taking no-life 650+ people right now. 1: because I can. It takes 2 minutes to fill a group with tryhards in week 1, and since I can’t get into groups otherwise, it doesn’t make sense to roll the dice. And 2: the reality is most people can’t play at that level. Yeah; keys are way easier than season 1, but that wasn’t the problem.
606 does have the health pool, just makes it on par of a +8 or something. (Or maybe +6?)
Ngl even in 0s been tough at 640 on my priest. Im extremely nervous about +. I’ve yet to even apply. Waiting to get more ilvl… Worried about messing up the run.
The repost was directly from RIO. I don’t understand what you are trying to refute.
Quote was updated to include final TWW S1 numbers.
US&OCE KEY COMPELTION; PREVIOUS SYSTEM +12 AND UP
Season Total Keys Completed (>+12)
US & OCE OnlySeason Length (Days) Average Keys Per Day BFA S1 316,507 140 2,260.76 BFA S2 982,734 155 6,340.22 BFA S3 1,106,634 190 5,824.39 BFA S4 5,235,188 237 22,089.40 SL S1 2,943,851 203 14,501.73 SL S2 4,536,814 232 19,555.23 SL S3 4,664,820 155 30,095.61 SL S4 2,336,596 85 27,489.36 DF S1 2,336,596 140 16,689.97 DF S2 6,113,391 183 33,406.51 DF S3 7,730,017 161 48,012.53 DF S4 3,545,284 91 38,959.16 TWW S1 9,049,105 161 59,2053.62
US&OCE KEY COMPLETION; ALL KEY LEVELS
Season Total Keys Completed
US & OCE OnlySeason Length (Days) Average Keys Per Day BFA S1 4,411,676 140 31,511.97 BFA S2 4,238,339 155 27,344.12 BFA S3 4,559,597 190 23,997.88 BFA S4 11,027,685 237 46,530.32 SL S1 5,738,104 203 28,266.52 SL S2 7,120,752 232 30,692.90 SL S3 7,450,120 155 48,065.29 SL S4 3,798,458 85 44,687.74 DF S1 13,169,515 140 94,067.96 DF S2 9,258,064 183 50,590.51 DF S3 11,148,027 161 69,242.40 DF S4 3,545,284 91 38,959.16 TWW S1 9,049,105 161 59,2053.62
Season Start: September 17th, 2024
Season End: February 25th, 2025
I’m not sure what other “links” you are requiring to show RIO numbers.
Players get better as key level goes up.
And you bruteforce stuff less so there’s less damage taken.
(Did not know Castigator’s Shield was a frontal until yesterday.)
I dunno, I ran like 20 keys on my mw and shaman both around 633 and got into every group in a few minutes. I ran a few on my hpal who’s still 620 and had no trouble getting invited.
How do you get the chart to post properly? I try it and it gets all mangled (which is why i have your post bookmarked for easy reference)
You have to go back to the post and quote the chart, copy the “reply”, delete the reply, and paste it where you want it. I noticed when you just post the url link it mangles it.
Of course you did. You are playing two healers.
Theater in my personal opinion is the easiest of the bunch.
Yes that’s the point.
These threads always complain about mEtA or needing to be massively overgeared.
They’re getting invites on the 2 worst healers with unimpressive gear.
Because getting invited is always a dps problem at heart. They are so wastefully numerous it takes less than 20 seconds to find better choices than a 615ilvl/300score. Even though that’s perfectly fine for a +2, there’s also no reason to settle for that.
As a casual, i would agree here, but it takes so long, i wish they’d prune a boss. I think Brew would be fine if they got rid of that one pointless miniboss before the final pull and pruned a couple trash packs. The rest feel kinda okayish to me, but TOP is definitely up there with Rookery as one of the easiest.
start your own groups if you’re DPS