Probably the most important thing for an MMO is a linear gearing path that feels good each step of the way.
How it stands now:
Hit 120:
Goal is 320 to get a full 340 set for ~6-8 hours of Qing WF. Since you're probably hitting 120 in ~280-90 gear you can either farm WQ for few days or do dungeons.
If you run dungeons you gear extremely slowly since the drop rates are terrible, so you can spend a week or more doing normals then heroics to get 320. This means that WQ are the far better option. It also means that WQ become irrelevant (gear wise) the instant you hit 320.
What this means is getting from a fresh 120 to 320 is /much/ longer than it takes to get from 320 to 340. Additionally you hit a wall because you either run out of time to run dungeons for a slim chance at gear, or you run out of WQ. So you eventually hit a wall every day. It kills the sense of reward because the many hours you spent getting to 320 are pretty much killed by Qing WF for a few hours.
Then after you've hit 340 it drastically slows again unless you have a raid slot or mythic carries from your guild.
TL;DR, the gearing process is alternately slow and fast, which makes the whole thing feel bad.
Sorry for the ramble, hopefully I made sense lmao.
I hit 120 on my warrior alt less than a week ago I think. It was the day after warfronts closed for Horde. I have it 349 ilvl, with zero raiding outside of LFR. This is while still raiding and doing things on my main.
No, stop making it easier to gear up. Tbh I don't care if it feels weird at this point. Anything making it harder to gear up is good.
Imo, don't make it easier to get to 320. Make it harder to get to 340. Warfronts are just free 340 and 370 gear. I didn't have to do anything to get gear. Just spam warfronts and you're good to go.
Imo, don't make it easier to get to 320. Make it harder to get to 340. Warfronts are just free 340 and 370 gear. I didn't have to do anything to get gear. Just spam warfronts and you're good to go.
11/09/2018 11:47 PMPosted by NotsodeadNo, stop making it easier to gear up. Tbh I don't care if it feels weird at this point. Anything making it harder to gear up is good.
Imo, don't make it easier to get to 320. Make it harder to get to 340. Warfronts are just free 340 and 370 gear. I didn't have to do anything to get gear. Just spam warfronts and you're good to go.
I'm not asking for easier gearing, quite the opposite. I think WFs are a huge problem in that they give 340 gear for almost no work compared to any other content. You work really hard to get to the point where you can essentially get free gear, and that makes no sense.
11/09/2018 11:49 PMPosted by Katielepew11/09/2018 11:47 PMPosted by NotsodeadNo, stop making it easier to gear up. Tbh I don't care if it feels weird at this point. Anything making it harder to gear up is good.
Imo, don't make it easier to get to 320. Make it harder to get to 340. Warfronts are just free 340 and 370 gear. I didn't have to do anything to get gear. Just spam warfronts and you're good to go.
I'm not asking for easier gearing, quite the opposite. I think WFs are a huge problem in that they give 340 gear for almost no work compared to any other content. You work really hard to get to the point where you can essentially get free gear, and that makes no sense.
You dont need to do it, you know right?
11/09/2018 11:53 PMPosted by Honma11/09/2018 11:49 PMPosted by Katielepew...
I'm not asking for easier gearing, quite the opposite. I think WFs are a huge problem in that they give 340 gear for almost no work compared to any other content. You work really hard to get to the point where you can essentially get free gear, and that makes no sense.
You dont need to do it, you know right?
You're asking me to intentionally make my gearing harder because I think it's broken? No. I'm pragmatic. I'll take the free gear even though I know it's a bad system.
Easy gearing should be for alts only...
The result of this easy gearing for everyone is, they out gear lower M+ dungeons, feel entitled to higher keys because of their ilvl, and end up being a complete burden to everyone.
Consequentially, people start relying MORE on raider.io because most of the plebs with gear are still clueless with dungeon mechanics.
And the same plebs cry on forums about raider.io being evil. At the same time, you end up having try-hards asking for .io scores for +2 dungeons...
The result of this easy gearing for everyone is, they out gear lower M+ dungeons, feel entitled to higher keys because of their ilvl, and end up being a complete burden to everyone.
Consequentially, people start relying MORE on raider.io because most of the plebs with gear are still clueless with dungeon mechanics.
And the same plebs cry on forums about raider.io being evil. At the same time, you end up having try-hards asking for .io scores for +2 dungeons...
11/10/2018 12:18 AMPosted by SybianjoyEasy gearing should be for alts only...
The result of this easy gearing for everyone is, they out gear lower M+ dungeons, feel entitled to higher keys because of their ilvl, and end up being a complete burden to everyone.
Consequentially, people start relying MORE on raider.io because most of the plebs with gear are still clueless with dungeon mechanics.
And the same plebs cry on forums about raider.io being evil. At the same time, you end up having try-hards asking for .io scores for +2 dungeons...
Yeah it's definitely weird that you can gear to 350/60 and never step foot in any difficult content. Especially when stuff like LFR and Mythics up to ~+5 give gear that is a waste of time for you. Puts you in a gray zone where you need and are geared for content you're not at all ready for.
I mean, I got 6 370s on this toon by doing content that's literally the most casual you can get.