Weaving spells instead of fists can lead to unfortunate scenarios

So i ll make a last attempt to clear out misconceptions,derailments and mount a defence for all that happened because there is a lot of misunderstanding .

I made this thread because i honestly wantedFor raiding to discuss things mentioned in the original post and how we could get past it, solve the MW misunderstandings and make a healthier community for everyone while starting to acknowledge that with the new talent trees and whenever blizzard offers a choice, sometimes it can be viable for the vast majority of players . Usually the X>Y debate starts to be relevant only for the 0.1% of people and i dont wanna go over there. Both builds are viable for the vast majority of people.

I ddnt want to stir up drama or raise a stink .I flagged my op because i was mad/sad about how it got handleled and derailed . Noone else flagged me set.
sweglo logic and the proof he provided on discord for me getting banned is like setting up a trial and you are judged completely out of context. To share some light on the matter his reasoning of me getting banned was :

I said : Nothing wrong with caster Mw in a post that said i saw a caster mw and he died to hailbombs. So because one player died to a mechanic its the caster mw fault and me defending that its not the build but the player that died to mechanic.

I said : 1. You can tweak the build to play withour RM if the bet is only ranged

But its gonna be an uphill battle with mana.
To a poster asking in questions how he can make abuild for ranged mistweaver because he took a bet with his friends and he wanted to win the bet. I only hardly replied because i wanted the person to win a bet. Hardly me advocating towards a ranged playstyle. I also told him numerous times how bad and disfunctional a ranged playstyle is but sweggles decided to keep only one word over the whole convo to judge. Seems fair

I said: 1. its not good in FLS build

3:20 PM

you can run it in other builds with great success / when a person asked if ToM is any good. So the correct ''peaks of serenity answer ‘’ would be no tom is bad in all content erase the talent move forward. Once again nothing wrong here but still that put me in the tribunal.

I said : :rofl: must have been fistweavers. Nasty the whole lot of them . It was a joke and everyone can see it as a joke. Only people who really look into words and incriminate others based solely on words without context again would share this as an incriminating factor

I said : I also preach caster for m+ :sleepy: , yes i do. Never in the discussion and questions unless im pinged ( i ll show also proof that mods and vets pinged me to come and help people with their caster build ) . I dont even preach it outside of a video guide i made

  1. In raids probably you ll need an army of druids innervating you but I highly doubt its better than the Chi-ji build

03/22/2023 9:19 AM

in raids casting is straight up trolling. rising mist is WAYYYYYYY too good and you need the mana economy for vivify cleave windows

in raids casting is straight up trolling. rising mist is WAYYYYYYY too good and you need the mana economy for vivify cleave windows

03/22/2023 9:19 AM

Provided you have endless mana would it be relatively close or not even?

a question regarding the possibility on a discussion. So we are not allowed to discuss anything obv or you are getting the banhammer

i also said 1. Thing is for my build at least you viv spam via soom for CF to matter while spreading some RenMs and EnvMs for ToM. So it would look something like yulon EnvM EnvM envm transfer / soom/EnvM/viv

:54 AM

So its a bit more complex as yo pay attention where u left ur transcend and remember to transfer and also remember to viv spam urself as part of the burst. And since it doesnt really buff the cleave then what is the gain? when asked directly if EFR is is worth it in a caster build . again someone else asked me via direct ping and it seems in that discord its better to ignore questions and never reply instead of bothering to say your thoughts . interesting

Here is a mod pinging me to show my build to a guy asking :
| casting ≠ ranged!

@me your time to shine I guess

The list can go on and on and on. Most of the time was me bothering to reply to questions about chiji rotation/optimal use of AT/FLS/trinkets ZP echoing etc.

THis is a hightlight of how peak members treat content creators that do not come in peaks for getting the ‘‘correct’’ cencorship to their content.

Really, the effort on the video is great. Just in the future, you can always head over to Peak and the vets / community there would be more than happy to review a script or some of the concepts you put in the video.

This is the video you can see how peaks members jump in the bandwaggon to go and trollpost with whatever they disagree.

IF you are a mistweaver , dont you dare enjoy the game unless you are blessed by the high hierarchy of peak mistweaving. otherwise you might get attacked by the ww troll bunch or get deflamated to oblivion.

I wouldn’t worry about it and just keep doing you tbh.

There are many viable MW builds/talent picks for the main intended purpose of the game. ( M+ 20s and mythic raids ). We both have proven that I think quite well just with the content we’ve done in non meta builds.

Yes there will be a mathematically BiS dps+hps build for people who want to push extremely high keys but realistically not a large portion of the game even cares to do this. Which makes some of the guides/arguments only showing that one build/playstyle a bit ridiculous/biased.

I say let them have their echo chamber and keep doing you! What they do doesn’t affect what you do, and if you are able to push 24’s ( or anything over 20 even ) in a different build I don’t think it really matters in the end.

Not everyone enjoys fey line builds from a design standpoint. It can be mathematically the best all it wants but it just feels bad to play imo.

Anyways, good luck! Hopefully you keep making videos/guides!

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The whole arguement in the thread that got locked is honestly one if the things I have previously mentioned that I find offputting about monks even though I do enjoy playing mine.

I really don’t see anything wrong with helping people play the spec that THEY wish to the best that they can. Most of the people playing are never going to run a +27 unless they bought it regardless of what build they use so their berating people really isn’t necessary and kills alot of the fun.

Keep making videos and having fun! I think it’s actually a benefit to see alternative ways to play that can help people accomplish what they wish to in game.

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I would simply just ignore the people causing peoblems. Post in here while you block them.

Tbh, I’m new to monk and am an enjoyer of all types of weaving. Rerolled for df but life decided that I wouldn’t play for most of 10.0. I just came back in the game and was pumped to continue monk. The bad rep of the spec didn’t scare me as I was playing disc last xpack, so I’m used to be going againsts the meta and enjoying myself.

I’ve been kinda disapointed in these forums. I was kinda loking forward to not have this disc/holy competition of 1 spec always overshadowing the other… I come here and it s actually worst than priest side within 1 single spec ugh…

Your posts seems like one of the only few lights still shining in here for mw. Keep going. We are all mistweavers. Let’s stop destroying our community from within…

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To be completely honest I would never expect ToM/CF builds to work in Mythic raids, it’s just too much of a focused healing build compared to the necessary wide healing for 20 man content.

Atm in beta there is a big chance ( unless tuning happens ) that our tier set makes clouded focus take over AT , as our pref talent . Blizzard might change their minds and tune it so it doesnt happen , but if it does , some people gonna be very upset i guess .

Seriously what is wrong with you LMFAO

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I like when I press buttons. I like when those button presses do BIG things.

You guys are literally proving his point by ganging up on him like this btw.

The discord chats in question too are easy to look up, unless things have been deleted there it comes off as you guys basically laughing him out of the discord.

It’s pretty sad.

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Thank you so much for quoting that one time I was actively supporting you. That… “quote”, where you deliberately left out my name AGAIN, probably in hopes I dont see it or no one notices it. So no one finds out the truth that I PROMOTED you and your content, even if it went against my principles of not recommending worse builds.

I feel like when you try and spark some drama with an entire discord server. Get called out that your ‘facts’ are just made up views of what actually occurred. And then proceed to scream your ‘I’m the victim’ story to anyone who will listen, you are going to catch some blow back from there.

No one in Peak has any issue with someone trying things or exploring new ways to play the class. Hell, I have gone on record personally to say I was wrong in some cases when a player brings a new playstyle forward that goes against the common guidance. But in each of those situations, the person presenting the information did so in a way that was respectful and in line with the rules of decorum in the server.

I personally have no problem with ol GN here. But they broke rules and are now creating a false narrative around the circumstances. I am sorry if you feel this is ganging up when all we want to do at Peak is be inclusive and supportive of individuals who play nicely in our sandbox.

Sorry for not bending over backwards while GN kicks sand in my eyes.

Also, GN, still waiting for my history to be posted here of my apparent long standing pattern of being toxic to content creators. Please, enlighten me once more.

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Oh inclusive is the vibe you’re going for?

It really misses the point if that is the case, especially when you guys are biased to one single build playing content most people dont play. Which begs the question why not just roll FOTM druid/evoker at that point? If you were all inclusive you’d cap it at the max intended content [ 20’s 8/8m pvp ] and show various builds that can achieve that on top of the BiS one, but you dont.

You guys frequently meme or laugh at anyone for any reason and then play victim when someone talks out about it. Don’t act like any of the class discords have ever been anything but elitist.

Inclusive…hahaha

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Why are you acting like we’re those gigantic conglomerates that suppress any free thinking and dictate the narrative of the game? We’re just a few nerds that share how to be good at the game.

Buff mw now!!!

broski i left your name out of respect for you , as i did not want to personally mention you in this, as you were a person i respected , you treated me kindly , but in the end i got the stab from you aswell. anyway i ddnt want to personally mention your name out of respect

i ddnt want to personally mention your name out of respect

Oh, but you did want to quote me out of context and intentionally paint me in bad light. Cool!

I regret that I tried to promote and help you that one time.

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Keep my name out of your mouth and off of the forums if you’re not going to treat myself or any of the members of Peak of Serenity with respect. You asked me to prove to you that what you typed was inappropriate for the designated channel in Peak of Serenity and then you act as if I am only keeping to one word in the whole conversation to judge you off of?

Man this anomoly dude doesnt even posses the round spheres to admit stuff and plays victim.

We are gonna believe in the end that i self banned myself then started a hate war against a discord ,and everyone in there is a victim. Those mods are literally martyrs of holyness , so pure that they never did anyone wrong. Their act is very convincing i must say … Lets look at this video comments of another content creator , where our dear old buddy together with his friends , grund , trvr and other known saints decided to attack once again something .

but remember they did nothing wrong and they just expressed what their holy mistweaving grail told them to .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bzmDE4LTO8&t=1286s&ab_channel=LBNinja7

check the comments, if you bother listening to the video , basically the dude said something, they distorted it and then proceeded to downgrade all his videos there after.

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sweggles](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4k4wmod8ydvLx8_2TdJCEw)

1 year ago

exceptional points. i agree

damn I really took it out on him there

Ah yes - Critique which the creator was receptive to is attacking them. Clearly hostile.

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