Absolutely appalled by the fact that they’re making human weapon racials useless but giving nothing in return. Maybe instead of just allowing all these classes/races to just choose Weapon 1 and Weapon 2 to be proficient at, we make it an enchant.
Make it a glove enchant, that also doesn’t stack with racials. This way people that decided to go human aren’t completely out racial abilities. This way they can at least get some power trade off by getting to use a primary stat enchant instead. Not sure on an exact solution, but its far better than the one given by Aggrend.
I’ve had like 3 people message me something similar today and I’m honestly struggling to grasp the concern. Since I am assuming we are talking about PvE, the rep bonus is really impactful and is a huge time saver.
Humans have been the undisputed king for any melee for all of vanilla forever. I think it’s okay if we spread the love a bit for seasonal content. We said from the very start that humans and orcs wouldn’t be the default choice for PvE.
Spreading the Love means giving some to both sides. What does alliance get in return?
Edit: I’m not saying that there should not be another avenue for players to receive weapon skill, but that invalidating large portions of a races abilties with no trade off is a poor decision.
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You know it’s not just humans right?
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But human’s are the most effected by this change. Horde still has access to extremely power racials if you lose Axe/Bow Specialization
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Night elves, dwarves, and gnomes get access to sword and mace skill. All alliance races get access to all other weapon skills that they didn’t already have. The only “losers” here are the races that already had weapon skill increases (i.e., dwarves and guns, trolls and bows, humans and swords/maces, etc). How is this bad?
Ah pity the poor orcs, who only have Hardiness, Bloodfury and Command left now
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Orcs - Blood Fury, Hardiness, Command (5% pet damage) + Free Weapon skill
Trolls - Berserking, Beast Slaying + Free Weapon Skill
Humans - More Spirit, More Rep
Dwarves - Stoneform
Night Elves - Shadowmeld
Gnome - Escape Artist, 5% intellect(which is pointless if you are using weapon skill)
If you can’t see the imbalance that it creates, and shifts ALL of the power to horde with absolutely 0 downside, I don’t know what to tell you. You must just be blind? Yea sure, the other alliance races get some added bonus, but even if every alliance race got ALL of the racials (Stoneform, Shadowmeld, Escape Artist) at the same time, it would pale in comparison.
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I would argue that is a bit out of touch comment from Aggrend. He is usually spot on but you can’t change your race in WoW. Most alliance Warrior’s are Human specifically due to the racials. Changing the racials mid-way through SoD and saying “well we told you so” is not an ideal way to go about it. Hopefully they find some sort of way to compensate, like they are doing with Priest racials. They still have time to figure it out.
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Who cares.
Pve is brain dead easy anyway
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Honestly infuriating comment from someone who is clearly out of touch. Horde racials are so terrible poor guys humans have a huge time saver they get to turn in 2 less boxes for the rep thingy.
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I’m almost certain troll racials don’t even apply to crossbows.
Just regular bows.
So disregard that along with most of their meme racial bonuses
The change feels bad as a human melee player, as your best racial is given to everyone and you’re not given anything in return.
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Does +5 weapon skill even effect PvP (assuming you were already max weapon skill of course)?
They need to remove any combat racials or let you choose the racials you want upon character creation. I never even wanted to play humans I wanted my warrior and rogue to be night elf but you get mocked playing night elf because it sucks for pve.
They said at the START that they were going to do this - why is anyone surprised?
Aggrend explicitly told people to play the race they liked the most, and not to pick by racials - this is all on the players’ heads.
Taken from the original announcement of Season of Discovery and post interview. Good to see they’re going back on what they said, and in fact messing with racial abilities. The fact the new stuff doesn’t stack.
- Racial Skills are important for Class fantasy and defines characters. Blizzard will not do anything specific for Racial abilities. But Blizzard does hint that maybe Weapon Skill related Racials will be available through rewards in Level-Up Raids. This will make some Weapon Skill Racials potentially less desirable, and maybe an item like Edgemaster’s Handguards won’t be as necessary.
Taken from below interview at 1 Hour in.
Assuming that every player read and listened to every piece of information from every developer before making their class and race choices is not reasonable.
It feels bad when something is taken away. Humans have lost their best racial and got nothing in return. It’s understandable that people aren’t happy about that.
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The correct way to have worded it would have been “Don’t pick the most ideal race because we are going to invalidate half of their racials in the future”
And to say that the racial for increased reputation gain is SO AMAZING. In the 42,000 reputation that it requires to go from neutral to exalted, Humans only skip 4,200 rep which is extremely minimal.
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You took all that time to find your answer and specifically ignored it for the sake of stupidity.
It’s wild you got middle aged men losing their minds about PvE racial passives in a videogame. Does being a Human in World of Warcraft matter that much to you? Absolutely unhinged.
It took me all of 2 minutes to go and find it. I don’t play a human nor do I play a melee, but that doesn’t mean I am supposed to blindly follow the stupidity of the Dev’s. How do you think Shamans got to the point they are? Blizzard does what they do best, fail to have any sort of balance.
really feel for the priests that rolled dwarf…sucked in