This wasnt the reason wildstar shut down.
It was terrible management and the last raid released tried to force guilds to combine which literally destroyed a ton of guilds.
Your example is absolutely terrible.
Raids will only get harder as expansions go and the years go by.
Raiding in 20 years will be nothing like it is today.
Compare classic raiding to now, it will be light and day.
It’s just reality.
I agree that the fights and the interface should be such that you don’t need help from a program to complete it. But I’m pretty sure that is just never going to be the case. The UI just does not have the information you need to complete some of these mechanics. At times you cannot even see yourself or other key things due to the mishmash of effects on the screen.
I feel like people enjoyed raiding in Classic than they do in current raids.
Just my opinion though.
In 20 years I’m fully expecting WoW to be up and running, but they will eventually have to succumb to multiboxing.
Not really, no, and I think Blizzard is aware of the fact. Banning addons will just push them out of sight, but they will still play a pretty big part.
Just look at FFXIV, a game that has officially “banned” addons and third-party tools. And yet DPS meters are still widely used. And tools that are similar to DBM, and so on.
What Blizzard can do is curve how much these addons can do, which I think is more or less their stance right now. As long as they don’t automate the whole process for you, they seem to be okay with it.
My personal gripe is that, if you are going to design around them, then they should make it part of the core game. Instead of relaying on a third-party altogether.
because you’re clearly so good at the game yourself to make this statement. Let’s see how far you’ve progressed on your main, coward.
None of this still explains to me how “you” or “your friends” found out they got declined from a +3 because they didnt do a +10.
There is literally no way to figure this out unless the leader literally PM’d you and said “sorry you didnt clear a 10 so not taking you”
which i can assure you, DOES. NOT. HAPPEN.
Your 3 horror stories isn’t a big enough sample size to come in here and make those claims.
Blizzard shouldn’t focus on making “hard” raids than it should be on making fun raids.
You can make raids extremely hard by just tuning the damage and health of bosses; it’s really that easy.
Idk, make it so addons are useful for finding a puzzle within the raid that gives you a boost in speed so you can clear the raid faster
How do you know? Your own defense can be thrown right back at you
Wheres your world first achievements with your guild not using weak auras?
Id self reflect before judging the top players in the game.
Yes, I know, because I do it lol. Mythic raiding isn’t that hard. It requires about 10 hours per week.
Now, HoF raiding, yeah, that’s a part time job. Regardless, there’s nothing wrong with it. I like having it in the game even though I’ve gone through periods where I prefer something more casual.
Because leaders of the M+ keys don’t pm 1/100 DPS pugs signing up?
what? There’s no way you believe this is frequent/normal occurence?
They’re too busy managing all the sign ups to be worried about 1 certain individual who AND THEN SAY “YOU DIDNT CLEAR A 10 SO NO 3 FOR YOU”.
Bruh I’m not paying this game to do work for them that’s just ridiculous.
That’s not what I said. I said how do you know that the player’s experience isn’t why they’re being declined for low keys?
OP is correct that it takes the focus almost entirely off of the actual fight and puts the focus on watching screen frames. We’re paying $15/mo to monitor screen frames.
You don’t?
That’s why when people like you make these outrageous claims about the “reasoning m+ is toxic”, I laugh.
You’re not getting rejected for the reason you stated.
You’re both correct.
You’re a number, so unless your number stands out, you won’t be looked at any different than the other dps signing up.
And he’s correct in that there are so many applicants (I know; I’m a tank) that at that point the ilvls are so similar that you just look for a class that will complete your comp, and it’s usually finding a ranged dps or a bloodlust.
That’s fine. You don’t have to. That also means you won’t get rewards as good as those who do.
Mythic raiding requires one of two things: Huge amounts of time and moderate skill, or Moderate amounts of time and high skill.
There are 2-day guilds who get CE every tier. There are 7-day guilds who barely make it into HoF. You get what you put in. Don’t be angry because others put more in and get more out.
I think HoF is toxic. I don’t wanna make this game a job that I PAY THEM to do.
There will always be a market for classic, the way it is now.
But ultimately to progress we have to move forward.