We need T5 now

Imagine doing pve to get upgrades for pvp. Crazy.

Go back to vanilla m8

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There are zero new raids

Ok you keep telling yourself that buddy… it’s almost like… they… re released bc… and now its… burning crusade CLASSIC… wowza…

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It absolutely is comparable.

There is no 25 man raid, we have 2 Ony encounters, and a glorified UBRS.

That’s it.

Release SSC and TK by end of Aug. The game is legit wasting away.

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Your math makes no sense. Vanilla launched with 3 raids. BC launched with 6. T5, and hyjal were both in BC at launch, they however required attunements. And for instance Hyjal wasn’t even attempted until BT launched, because TK wasn’t killed yet.

But BC:C launched with half the raids actual BC launched with. So yeah delaying MC until p2 classic would’ve been exaclty the same thing.

T5 was indeed launch content in TBC, but the ilvl of T5 places it far out of whack with the Arena seasons until S2 releases. Therefore, Blizzard staggered the tier release schedule to correspond with Arena seasons and to make the progress of TBCC match literally every other iteration of WoW, including Vanilla and all subsequent expansions except for TBC.

Thus, it isn’t comparable in the slightest. Vanilla saw the entirety of T1 available to us at the beginning, but not T2. Vanilla also didn’t have a competitive PvP set of content to justify any changes in the staggering of the game.

Literally doesn’t matter an iota.

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I was gonna play this new game called World of Ironicweeb’s delusional thinking. The main point of the game is to make everyone believe a biased opinion .

If hyjal / t5 was out at the start it would of been cleared the first week and you would 100% asking for t6 which would also be cleared the first week.

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It absolutely does. This game is dying because people are bored. We got less than 25% of the 25m raid content that was available at BC launch. (I don’t count hyjal bosses in this since hyjal wasn’t even attempted until post 2.1 I’m BC anyway, despite being in since launch.)

Again, im not asking for future content, I’m asking for launch content

How about you go onto the ptr right now and raid SSC?

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In TBC p1 you currently have access the entirety of the first tier of class set raid gear. Delaying MC to p2 like in your comparison would not lead to the same result on Classic.

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By the best players in the world!!! 99% of guilds had not cleared the content. Stop looking at the top 1% as a benchmark for how far average people were progressed.

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Neither does arena. They ruined pvp already, who cares.

If it doesn’t release end of the month, the damage (just like the damage already done to arena with all their changes) will be lasting.

3 of my friends are letting their sub expire end of month.

2 more are considering it.

These are HWL, Naxx farm, sweats. The game is withering on the vine.

Blizzard is shooting themselves in the foot.

Irrelevant. My raid would be farming it by now. We instead have people making alts or raid logging.

And you would be here complaining about waiting on t6 instead, that’s the whole point.

Part of why they paced it out is so people wouldn’t blow through TBC in 2 weeks.

If t5 came out at launch, Kael would have died before the weekly reset after launch to the top guilds, and many guilds would be killing him 2-3 weeks in, and now would be asking for t6 content.

Idk why you guys want TBC to last 4-6 months instead of like 1-1.5 years

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If you want TBC to be paced for consistent progression feeling, you’re gonna have a 1-2 month expansion lol

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No it isn’t. (you just don’t like facts you can’t argue)

Nothing wrong with either of those two things.

Agreed!

It’s not release anymore. People won’t wait another month, they will quit.

I’m not saying it should have been there at launch, I’m saying release it before September.

We had 3 Kara groups for quite some time. Our 3rd group is at least half pugs now. And we’ve been losing players left and right. It’s very difficult to recruit players you know you don’t have room for in 25m, because they don’t stick around just for kara. In the last 2 weeks we’ve lost 4 players to boredom.

No HWL’s, but we cleared naxx. And idk if this guild will make it another month or 2 with only 3 bosses. Most of us are fully geared out from Kara now, or didn’t need much from it in the first place between naxx and crafted gear.

If you want an idea of about how useful Kara gear is take a look at the price of void crystals on your server. Last I checked there worth less than half the price of LPS’s

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