Can we get some racial balance? Why dont we have different numbers for PVP and PVE for racials. Its kind of lame being forced into certain races because they are un-deniably the best race by a far distance (stun reducation, damage trinkets, stuns, etc)
races like worgen, draenei, Blood elf racial, night borne, maghar… their are just certain races that are just bad compared to other races in the game for pvp.
Its been ages, how about some balancing rather than the old ‘this racial is OP lets make it useless’ like they did to Blood elf in legion.
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Yeah… racials are the reason you are hardstuck at 1500… okay 
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Take rocket jump off the gcd and have it give you an immunity frame like metamorphosis.
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I did not say that. But your ego is showing…
I main orcs and normally play around 2k casually. I dont care much for playing hardcore these days as i am old and have other things to do. I just noticed that racial balancing in pvp has not happened ever and wanted to talk about it. Plus one of my arena partners quit when they nerfed Blood elf racial and because of BFA.
compared to other things racials really aren’t a problem right now
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So you admit you play the most OP horde race and are still hardstuck at 1500…? 
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True, but it is still a problem.
If you compare orc racials to worgen racials and you think that the balance between the two are even close in pvp then you are trolling.
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Racials are the least of our problems, but I guarantee I could fix them all without ever having thought of this issue before. Like Worgen could just have darkflight changed to a ghetto steed of glory.
Darkflight Worgen Racial
Instant 2 min cooldown
Activates your true form, increasing current movement speed by an additional 50% for 4 sec. While active you become immune to movement impairing effects, and you knock back enemies that you move through.
Blizzard wants to spend their time on new 40 man vehicle combat BG’s instead.
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Not once have I heard “Bah! I would have had him if I wasn’t a Worgen!”
1.0000002 is larger than 1.0000001 but like c’mon, is it really?
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Well if you look at the statistics on wowgraphs 22% of pvp players on horde and alliance above 2k are orc and 2% are worgen, 0.8% are goblin etc.
race does have a impact in high level play in RBGS and Arena… Look at the statistics if you think against it. I wouldn’t be playing orc right now if we didnt have a damage trinket, 20% stun reduction (6 sec kidney stun turns into 4.8 second stun which is a big deal). If orc could be pallys, druids or priests you would see most people playing orcs in high level pvp. Just going to assume you are a troll based off your initial post.
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Worgen and goblins are ugly, that’s why no one plays them.
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You need to think of things in a more general sense and not make premature assumptions. I mean don’t get me wrong, I know most horde pvp’ers are orcs. But saying that 22% of people above 2K are orc doesn’t mean that orc is the reason they’re above 2k. It doesn’t always correlate like that.
Like, if any class could be any race, you’d see a huge influx in orc probably. Sure thing. Druids, pallys, etc. Stun duration is good. But “pvpers” and people who care about trying to min/max advantages are going to choose said advantage regardless of how big. Much like mythic dragonslayers will pick a racial if it’s .5% more dps. Doesn’t mean these people wouldn’t be high end if they chose not to reap those benefits.
I mean I definitely agree that orc is better for pvp than most/all other horde races, but I’m not ever about to lose a game and blame it on the race. That’s just not a thing in my opinion.
Never said you should blame a lost game based off race. All i am saying is there is obvious balancing issues with races in pvp.
Plus there is a huge difference between .5% dps and flat utility like a % reduction on all stun effects. Could be 25 seconds worth of stuns a game removed for playing orc. Plus you have a damage trinket, compared to say a 2.5 min single buff purge from a blood elf and 1% crit.
LET’S GOOOOOOO. Arcane Pulse + Bladestorm.
Nightborn’s Arcane Pulse:
Pulse X damage every 1 second for 5 seconds and slow nearby enemies by 70% for 10 seconds. 3 minute CD.
Tell me how helpful that orc racial is against a mage. Rock Paper Scissors. Racials are fine and you need to just get gud
For sure man. So long as that’s understood. I agree, some racials have no impact while others are definitely impactful.
Gnomish master race reporting in.
Now if only they made classes more balanced.
To OP you lost me at “stun reducation” good lord stay in school
But to touch on your post, Blood elf is not useless its actually quite good especially vs any team that has a hpal (i know because I play one) and I have gotten belf kicked on my divine favor…
Blood elf racial was wayyy too good when it was the 2nd only blanket silence in the game (sp the first). DH would open and absolutely destroy someone… It also was the only spell to stop a divine favor cast .
I will agree night borne is rather weak, maghar ive never even seen lol…
Draenei would probably be decent if it wasnt purgeable… at the same time most classes that COULD play a draenei should just play the other races since dwarf racial is rather really good in the maledict meta. Humas are always great because you can play relentless and still break out of stuns and orc is similar to human but should play trinket as they get a passive buff to stun reductions.
However you can get rating with any race class combinations.