We Need Old Zul'Gurub Back

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Hello!

I was running some Zul’Gurub dungeon this week, and it reminded me the old days when i did this as a raid in vanilla.

I even rewatched the trailer that went out during Vanilla of this cool raid : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ssO5NWj-7E

This trailer reminded me also of how we lost some lore and bosses and mogs and mounts, and i find it to be a shame.

Thats why i was thinking, that i would love if the old version of the raid was put back into retail wow the same way they pout back the old version of The Scarlet Monastery. Via a cool secret.

Now, some would come and say “But but, muh prestige, about the tiger! and the raptor!”

And i will say that, the prestige of these mounts are not even about skill, but about luck.

As i said, i did ZG back in vanilla, i also did farm it during woltk when it was soloable, and i never got these mounts, and it was not because of skills since i did clear that raid, but because i just was not lucky.

If you want a fare comparison : its like al’ar in tempest keep. The mount did not drop at 100% (like mimiron’s head for example) but was a low drop rate, and even today, al’ar is still a prized mount.

So no, this wont devalue the mounts as they still will be a low drop rate.

And for thoese who would argue “Oh, but i pout a lot in bmah when these mounts were there!” Well, i will say, just like some peoples who put a lot to get al’ar when it is here in bmah.

This will also allow to get the old mogs that were removed with the raid. Some might say “Oh but there already is a secret linked with ZG and getting old stuff” yes, old stuff from npc vendor which were on Yojamba isle (Guide here : https://www.wowhead.com/guide/collections/unlock-access-old-zulgurub ), not the ones from actual raid.

So yeah, bring back old ZG please!

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Old ZG mog access:

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/collections/unlock-access-old-zulgurub#:~:text=engaged%20in%20combat.-,Go%20back%20to%20Jin’do%2C%20start%20his%20fight%2C%20and,all%20members%20of%20your%20Warband.

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Crazy how i adress this in my post but you completly ignore it :

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I could see it as a classic timewalking raid?

I don’t see the draw myself the removed bosses didn’t really have mechanics but seems a decent solution

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I agree. It would be great to revisit the original version. I think if it was gated behind a quest similar to what they did with “old” scholomance, it would be great.

And since I’m doing wishful thinking… can we do the same with shadowfang keep and ubrs too?

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Yeah your post wasn’t interesting enough to read.

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Something that surprised me about rerunning Classic TW was Deadmines is apparently in its original state; not the Cataclysm revamp one. Legitimately didn’t even know this was still accessible, nor sure when it even came back or if I’m just crazy and it’s never not been available.

Regardless, I really see no reason why they could not implement any removed content via NPC toggles these days just so people can see everything for how the game used to play and how it currently does. Originally it was all just removed with the updates and claimed to be gone forever, but with Classic being put back into the game (and it runs off the retail client) I feel like it should largely be doable.

The only raid I could understand not returning is OG Naxx, in part because they added in an (insane) grind to get T3 recolors, corrupted ashbringer was intentionally removed, and also because it was effectively retconned via moving to Northrend. I believe the official reason is that KT was not permanently killed, but…beyond tuning it’s the same raid as it was in Vanilla, rather than a revamp like other content got. The story reason for its revival is really just a lame excuse and it would have been better to say it was retconned to not have happened.

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Yes, i also loved the way they did it with old Scholo!

Shadowfang Keep would be a great idea, ubrs too.

But les not forget Sunken Temple!

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None of the old dungeons, raids, or zones should ever have been removed.

Make all of it accessible. I don’t care if they sell access on the store. Just give me a way to play the content in Retail.

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I fondly remember when the raid infected the world with that blood disease. Got quite the chuckle out of that.

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It’d be awesome if they implemented it somehow with all the old removed or changed raids/instances. My wife wasn’t playing back then so when I ran her through the places I told her how they used to be, but it’d be cool to be able to actually show her.

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I really don’t see how some people get so upset over things like this (and I have the raptor).

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I got extremely lucky with ZG.

Was farming the tiger, simply because it’s a must-have for any Horde troll player, and I was playing my Darkspear Hunter at the time.

Managed to get it, but had no idea it would be taken out of the game.

I faithfully ran that raid every week, not knowing it’d be removed someday lol, just got lucky.

I’d solo Thekal using the stump trick. If you know, you know.

I still hate how they got rid of old Sunken Temple, that was my favorite dungeon in the entire game.

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Yeah, i can get why the OG Naxx wont come back, but here, the difference is, that the OG ZG was very different with a lot of different bosses etc…while OG Naxx was exactly same as current one.

I am not a big fan of having it part of the timewalking rotation only, because this mean that we will have to wait evertytime the rotation to finally be able to do it.

My brother and i exactly did the same (without mentioning when we did it during vanilla) but we did not get the good ending unlike you sadly.

Yup, i know!

One of my favorite!

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ik. ik. :nerd_face:

oddly enough, i got both of the raid mounts in FAR fewer runs than what it took to get the mounts from new zg

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