Right now in epics especially but in a lot of bgs people will just drop if they view the battle to go the wrong way. Thing is that then punishes the next guy in line. It’s always a crap shoot in randoms of you getting on a winning team or not.
I think a stacking account wide deserter debuff would stop that shuffle at least a bit. It should reset on a counter but it has to be account wide and stacking for it to mean anything. Otherwise people will just queue up lose, and swap characters and rinse and repeat. The next guy in line gets dropped into a loser battle and it continues.
The same should go for not queueing for an arena…or it should extend the start timer until the arena is filled. 1 v 3 or 1 v 2 in arenas suck. It’s not as big a deal as it is so fast but it still is a bummer when you are trying to do a weekly and need 10 wins.
Let’s start wasting the time of people who quit or don’t show up MORE than we waste the time of people who stick it out and who do show up.
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Should flag the account so when they leave and try to alt hop, it puts their alt back into the same game. Instead of punishing the account with deserter. Make the account play the same BG until its over.
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We already have this in rated pvp and that’s good enough.
It has gotten to the point that whatever side loses the group fight at the beginning of a BG suffers a ~50% loss of players; no exaggeration. There is no recovering from that. What this results in is a penalizing of players who do not desert.
Either it gets fixed now or it will have to be fixed soon, so I don’t get worked up over it. Left as the way things are now, soon the losers of the group fight will all desert.
BGs and EBGs will just be one group fight and nothing more.
This is very good.
I am always encouraging people to afk especially when facing premades.
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Thats another bad idea. You dont get people to play the game by punishing htem when they dont wanna waste 40 minutes in a epic BG being farmed.
STOP IT!!
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I think really the only way would be to let people that fight it out get conquest as well like honor. Then for the side that wins, they get a bonus amount of conquest. I know I’ve heard the why are you doing EBGs for conquest, and for me it’s because I have two amputated fingers on my mouse hand which makes quick movement more difficult and in epics it takes more people to fight which allows me to stand still more and at a distance.
Team activities are about more than just me.
Even if it’s account-wide, I still don’t want to waste 30 minutes in a lost Wintergrasp. My options are either to stop queuing for epic bgs or just not play WoW at all. And honestly, it’s not hard to sit in a turret and tab out to another window.
Instead of slapping on band-aid solutions that cause more issues than they fix, maybe figure out the root cause why people don’t want to stay in the first place.
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Yes! Exactly. There’s a reason /afking is far more prevalent in epics than anywhere else.
What part of screwing the next guy in line don’t you get? That is what you are doing now so half the players are getting stuck in games that were already lost by the first players. If you don’t want to play the whole BG then don’t sign up, and if you really don’t want to stay then go do something other than pvp for a while.
You are advocating for allowing people to shift bad games to other people, not to just quit. It’s a horrible system. WE need this and better match making. Instead we have faster queues and 90% horribly mismatched bad games.
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Sync exploiters sure have been mad people are leaving their games. Maybe you guys should fight each other?
I couldn’t agree more…nerf hunters!
I agree with a better deserter debuff, but only if the maps are fixed as well.
Implement your “punishment” plan and those Que times will increase exponentially, as they search for 40 people willing to waste 45 minutes being farmed.
People will just stop doing EPics.
If those people dont want to be added to a losing EPic then dont que. See how that works both ways?
The solution is to fix the Epics to where there isnt just 1 win condition IE
Hangar
SR
ROC
etc etc and so on.
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