This is an exhausting and terrible way to build a guild, much closer to a house of cards. Please, no one take ANY of this advice. It’s the guild leader equivalent of making mustard gas in your toliet.
My core is struggling filling out a 20 man raid. 10 man was fantastic… now at 20 man, we can manage to fill out 15 from the usual roster but we always end up pugging the rest.
40 man will kill my core.
They don’t log but HARD AGREE otherwise. Despite not generally having that mindset- I think the offer to raid side-by-side was generous. To get that kind of offer back was mind-blowing.
You must’ve missed the part where it was the 6/8 people bothering the guy I responded to, not the other way around.
His guild’s already built. It’s got a successful ST team that would be more than capable of succeeding at 40-man content given the ability to form a coalition with another ST team. He doesn’t NEED to poach anyone. I’m merely suggesting it as a response to repeatedly getting contacted by bad guilds who think it makes sense for a good guild to disband and join a bad guild. If a simple “no” isn’t enough to make them go away, maybe losing a few of their better players will get the message across.
jsut bring less than 40. it’s doable with fewer.
It’s the bottom of the barrel from both Retail and Classic spectrums. Although I’d lean more toward Retail.
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Yeah, but as a GM you knew this was coming. You had ample time to prepare and recruit early and recruit often.
It’s not that. It’s about relationship and bonding.
Your core was never viable for a classic season then.
It was viable for SoD (early phases).
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Yes, but I would say smaller groups are much more viable in the leveling process. 40 man raids were always on the horizon as the end game of the season.
This is why it’s not smart to join guilds if the GM isn’t a sociopath crazy person/or rich and retired.
It’s a full time job to run a large guild.
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lol i know right 
it’s unreal
I used to deal with this kind of behavior in Azeroths Most Wanted. Those people aren’t worth the emotional energy.
It’s a game not a cult.
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I’ve done leadership in two guilds that raided for 3 years each (well the last raided for 4 years but I stopped a year before that).
I wanted to lead a guild with the first, with the second I did not want to do guild leadership because it can be like a full time job, but I tend to be social and helpful in guilds, so I fell into it.
The key to a successful guild merge is like-minded players. A 6/8 guild and a week 1 clear guild is probably not that. So the best idea is to just not do it and say “Sorry, that doesn’t sound like a good fit” and move on.
As for poaching players, you’re far more likely to get the people who are just as likely to do it to you and then just ghost one Tuesday or whatever. If you find a guild that has just died and offer spots to those players, that’s different, but pure poaching isn’t a healthy way to recruit.
Also, this type of scenario sounds like it would lead to power struggles. My guilds have absorbed other guilds and the key to success is having the other leadership no longer wanting to lead and instead just wanting to play. Power struggles tend to lead to cliques, drama and guild implosions.
As for the situation I can imagine that having to unknowingly shift raid sizes could be frustrating to deal with in general. With Classic I was surprised to find that 25 man guild leadership and 40 man guild leadership felt very similar.
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I dont want 40 mans, 20 mans killed the vibe I had in my 10 man
they need to add 400 man raids with a year lock out and drop only 1 loot per boss
I remember seeing posts asking if you could put “WoW guild leader” on your resume back in the day
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10mans are glorified dungeons, not raids
Hardly anyone is raiding on our server. The only people that want 20-40 man raids are the ones not organizing them. I used to organize and run BFD, Gnomers, tons of dungeon runs all through p1 and p2. That’s all dead now.
Raid scene is dying, dungeon scene is dead outside of wild offering spam.
I organized one (1) ST run and it took almost 2 hours to fill the raid, and that is when people were interested in running it. Recently we spend two hours trying to fill and then just call it a night.
There’s a literal handful of bigger guilds that still do a run a week, but that’s really it.
20 man raids killed the scene on smaller servers. 40 man raids will be completed by several guilds and then never touched again, and the rest of us will probably just let our subs run out.
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