From my testing, Zen 2 was only 10% behind Intel 9th gen when I did my WoW Benchmarks.
Motherboard/Processor/Ram have a lot to do with FPS in CPU bound games.
So far in wow my 5900x has yet to top my 10900k OC to 5.2 on Z490 Hero with a 4200mhz ram kit. Its had the most FPS I have gotten on any rig. IMO its not really fair though. AMD cant use over 3800mhz atm and ram speed matters sooo much on intel. CL timings dont however thank god
assuming you arenât quite happy with the 5900x?
Gaming aside how is it for day to day usage? I couldnât put my finger on it but ryzen felt a bit sluggish compared to my intel builds. Not a significance amount but its there. Unfortunately I donât own the 9900k build anymore so I can bounce back and forth to test.
Gaming the 10900k wins but ONLY when oc to 5.0+ and using a 4000mhz ram kit.
Non gaming? The Ryzen 5900x blows it out of the water in every way shape and form. All the sluggishness, slow post times ect ect? Died with Zen 2. My Zen 3 5900x has none of those issues. The 5900x boots faster than my intel did actually. Single core performance is nuts too. Photoshop and premiere are up and running faster too.
My 10900k @ 5.2 scored 574 and Multicore score was 6728 to give you an idea of the differance
Dang. My 5800x came in and I realize I left my tools at my other location. Oh well. Waiting on the 5900x to come in but that wonât be until end of Jan or early Feb.
Zen 3 does NOT feel sluggish at all. That was a zen 2 issue. Just use a 3600mhz CL16 Ram kit and your good. For just gaming id stick with the 5800x. It boost higher. Games better too due to 1 CCX
Also your 5800x is on par non gaming than the 10900k in multicore even though its only 8 cores which is nuts! The 5800x is the 10900k competitor. The 5900x and 5950x dont have one.
Only 8 cores. Look at that Multicore score
I am going to keep the 3200Mhz kit I have. Donât think its worth the trouble to find and swap out my current kits.
I am coming from the 3900x and having the mental hurdle trying to accept swapping from a 12 core to an 8 core and paying more for it. But I donât have a need for those 4 extra cores, but its definitely a nice to have when I have VMs running in the background (havenât done this in months since project finished).
You wont notice a difference. Dont worry. The difference between the 3900x and 5800x is night and day in the 5800xâs favor.
Watch this video I made to do a very fast tune of your ram to 3200 CL14 then. Its only touching your primary timings so it should work for anyone. Will take you 30seconds in your bios tops. Jist doing primarys I got to sub 57ms latency! Which is insane!
Iâll mess around my ram timing when I get the chance. Last time I messed around with these kits they were pretty sensitive to the timings and I started blue screening, but that was the stock BIOS that came with the motherboard. (was trying to get tighter timings)
PS.
+1 on the video for speaking clearly. 90% of the people I work with canât even speak half as well as you can.
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The video is a bit longer than it needs to be because I dont just tell what to change I explain why in laymanâs terms to anyone can follow . My sister who knows jack about computers did it lol. She said after watching the video it took her 30 seconds and worked. Before when you messed with them you probably messed with sub timings and voltages. These are just primarys its the same as your xmp profile only this way you will have better CL.
Just update your bios before you do it. to the most up to date NONBETA bios. You will need to for that 5800x anyway
As someone who works for a Tech testing company, Companies like AMD, NVIDIA, Intel send my company release candidates of their cards and processors. We give them our thoughts and they decide then if they will make changes or release them as is and ignore our advice. They hire us so they can get unbiased opinions before they release and start sending out review units. So we actually test the Pre-Pre Review units. Most of what these guys are saying here is 100% true. Im a flabbergasted by the amazing helpfulness and knowledge some of these folks have. I wish the GD form had half the brains these guys do.
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The GD forum is cancer 
No you havenât.
His settings werenât possible to sustain on an xp 3200, 9600k or 8700k.
Did you happen to notice the the face with the growing nose at the end of my post?
Sorry mobile >_<.
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no worries, happens to me too 
I tend to point to WoW when I am on other forums and people start arguing about CPU needs. Itâs really one of the better tests of IPC thatâs widely known.
Back in 2017/2018, I spent HOURS debating people (on this forum too) about why Intel was a stronger CPU, especially for WoW, despite people always showing videos of the Ryzen 1600/2600 matching the Intel counterparts at GPU limited scenarios.
Well as you know, WoW is generally CPU bound when it matters, and now that we have even more powerful GPUs, the limitations of the first and second generation Ryzen CPUs are really starting to show.
Not really meaning to trash AMD here (heck I have a 1600 myself that I use almost as much as my 8700k), but it leads to the following:
Intel in general is starting to take the position AMD was in at that time - slightly less performance for less money (given the 10400f is $160 vs 3600 @ $200 and 5600x @$300).
In GPU limited scenarios, the current Intel lineup is more than fine and costs less. But in games like WoW, whichever has superior IPC reigns king. Iâm not totally sold on the âfast ram makes Intel betterâ because at that point, it invalidates the cost savings by going Intel to begin with here.
Suffice to say, the 2017 investment in Intel was worth it. Right now? I wouldnât recommend it if you have the choice to buy Ryzen 5000 series at MSRP.
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The CPU was more noticeable back in the day. Game was still more than playable back then on either vendor CPU.
I remember testing my 1600X on Windows and then Linux. Back then it was a day and night difference in WoW with a more modern CPU scheduler. The frames werenât as high as my Intel counterparts but the lows were much better. Linux had upwards of 45% better CPU performance. Windows has caught up some but the perf difference is still there.
On Windows you could reduce the gap of AMD vs Intel with RAM tweaking, though silicon lottery and cost puts you right back in the spot of just getting a stock Intel back then. Then with security patches Intel took a bigger hit over time. Even if you disable some youâd have to hold back firmware, microcode and OS patches.
Itâs interesting if you like to play with hardware/software. At the end of the day getting a gsync/freesync monitor made the gameplay smooth.
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I donât remember what itâs like playing without adaptive sync.
I notice it sometimes on my TV when I play on that system, though.
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I had a 4K Freesync Monitor with 54-64 Freesync range once. I had to manually configure it for 40-60. Without tweaked Freesync Range that monitor felt like torture.