“There will not be a trial where she is in chains. Sylvanas is not a character who would find herself in that situation … ever.”
Potentially, just like at the end of legion (don’t even get me started on wod and “draenor is free!”)…another villain gets away scott free because reasons. In legion we literally got a play by play of just about everything illidan did, except we skirted by the slavery and torture of everyone in outland. But we did cover nearly everyone he murdered in cold blood in his quest for more power. But it was all ok in the end…because “the greater good.”
Of course, we kinda glossed over his stalking and borderline sexual harassment of Tyrande for several millennia…but hey, can’t stop the turn the villain into the hero train!
And now, it looks like we’re all set to do it again. First, we get the “morally grey” nonsense about the genocide of the Night Elves at the start of bfa, then we get more and more piled on as the lich queen violates everything she claimed to be against as she raises people without free will to be her murder slaves.
And now, we get the “she’d never get a trial.”
So, we are left with the raid boss ending (which they’ve pretty much said wasn’t going to happen), or they give her the cheap redemption “draenor is free!” nonsense we’ve seen for the last three releases.
You may as well have an elf child interact with the lich queen (think Grinch) be the way it happens and have her heart growing the appropriate sizes if you’re going to go the cheap redemption arc.
It’s pretty odd that every single Night Elf she raised suddenly decided to instantly turn right around and start murdering their fellow Night Elves. Statistically, she would have found more than a few people who would have been more likely to have said “Hello, my name is (Night Elf name), you killed my father. Prepare to die!”
To be fair, on the horde side, there are a few NE who fight back when you try to raise them in Darkshore. It’s weird that Delaryn and Sira would turn, though.
Think he’s referring to the notion during the siege of Undercity / Blighting that she raises the recently killed to keep fighting the Alliance.
You misunderstand what Watcher said. He implies Sylvanas wouldn’t find herself in a position where she’d be taken prisoner and stand at trial the way Garrosh did; he’s not saying Sylvanas won’t get a trial strictly because they’re going to give her a get-out-of-jail-free plot.
Personally I loved Illidan’s story.
Also despise Tyrande and always will, though that only started in Legion. I know my opinion isn’t popular, but I thought Illidan’s story in Legion was a good one. Before everyone screams at me, yes, I know there’s disagreement on the matter. It doesn’t change how I personally enjoyed it, though.
As for Sylvanas, eh. I’d rather have a Kerrigan than a Garrosh. This story isn’t the best one for this expansion, and I kinda just want to see it end so we can move on and start working against the actual problem, AKA the void.
That actually does happen during the Horde’s questline on Darkshore. There’s a 50/50 shot that your attempt to raise a night elf will cause them to transform into a hostile wisp.
Yeah, well, i don’t know how good the writing team is, but there isn’t any mind control shown on those night elves. Those who didn’t get raised or accepted it, got killed shortly after being brought back, as shown in the horde darkshore quests.
Yeah haha, I mean I’d be fine if she died, but… we already had one warchief killed via a very similar storyline, Garrosh. Then, Vol’jin… then, Rasta… I think we need a break from Horde leaders being offed.
You know what would be fine? “She vanishes… never to be seen again” ooo spooky let’s move on from her nonsense.
I have no strong feelings for her sadly x.x I used to think she was pretty neat and enjoyed her character, but that’s been decimated. Now I’m just ready to move on
That wouldn’t really be a satisfying end for anyone:
The fanbase (hers) would be upset because she fell off the edge of the universe and her storyline is unconcluded.
Everyone she’s steamrolled over since vanilla to now (especially bfa) would rightfully point out that she’s never answered for her crimes.
The whole blizzcon Q&A last year pointed out she going to top garrosh (the “amateur” comparison) so you can’t have someone go “I’ll top that” then vanish. Because the whole thing will start over again should she ever return (and that will be the unending question).
Honestly, if baine or someone on your side ends her in an honor challenge, it wouldn’t be as satisfying (unless they wrote it really well) but at least it partially redeems your faction and ends her in a way that gives her fans some satisfaction. At least they can say she went down fighting.
I figure they don’t have to explain anything away. In the next expansion they will just do what they did with the vindicaar. Never mention it again and pretend it doesn’t break the plot at all.
The rule of cool doesn’t always have room for things that make sense.
Baine wouldn’t even kill a fly, much less Sylvanas, tbh.
The horde as a faction isn’t just the orcs. Not all of us think a trial by combat would solve anything or redeem her. That’s why i despise Saurfang and his vapid sense of honor that would only befit the orcs.
Besides, Baine or any other that even attemped to go 1v1 with her, would just get poisoned and die, just like Cairne had it happen to him.
Yeah, but then we run into the same thing where we have a “warchief once again destroyed by their own faction” for going haywire. Which, meh. Whatever, at this point I wouldn’t care all that much (not nearly as invested in the story as I was in Legion, I will admit) so I would have to accept it. It’s kinda written into a corner with only a few solutions, that being one of them.
In all honesty, I want to see some undead within the Horde (not Calia nonsense) rebel. Like, they find out that she denied someone free will and get really mad. Lillian’s response to the Baine thing was nice, it was refreshing to see, and I hope I see more of it.
Also glad that the other leaders are starting to finally display some questioning of her nonsense.
