We Didn't Listen!

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N’Zoth whispers: The veil wanes. His crown will open the way.
N’Zoth whispers: I alone can save you from what is to come.
N’Zoth whispers: It grows hungrier… bolder. Alas, your eyes are closed.
N’Zoth whispers: When the arrow finds its mark, the last fetter will fall away.
N’Zoth whispers: The Light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all.

The Light is also not the Light as we think of it. It’s Azshara.

Azshara’s titles.
Queen of the Naga
Empress of Nazjatar
Her Radiance
The Light Beneath the Tides
Queen Beneath the Tides
Queen of Tides
Queen of the Kaldorei Empire
Cherished Heart of the People
Daughter of the Moon
Flower of Life
Flower of the Moon
Glory of Our People
Her Glory
Light of Lights
Light of the Moon
Light of a Thousand Moons
The Queen Born of Stars
Radiance of the Moon
The Vainglorious
Vision of Perfection

And she made a pact with Sylvanas…

Credit Guldie Dax for pointing this one out.
“In Three Sisters, Alleria’s Void whispers shriek at her to kill Sylvanas because she serves ‘the true enemy’ and will bring about ‘the end of all possibilities’”

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This is only like the 3rd time we didn’t shrugs

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N’zoth did nothing wrong

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8.2.5 and the epilogue for 8.3 reveals that N’Zoth was the one whispering to her that whole time.

N’Zoth fears the Jailer that much! What the Void Lords think of him is another story since we only see their avatars like Dimensius.

Dimensius is of the opinion that all will be devoured so that Void Lord doesn’t seem that different from the Jailer. Yogg-Saron doesn’t seem that different from the Jailer either. N’Zoth and whatever spawned him seems to be the exception not the rule in regards to Void Entities!

N’Zoth’s plan was to purge the planet then eventually(provided no Raider in Ny’alotha kills him before hand) merge Ny’alotha with Azeroth for the return of the Black Empire. He clearly is not on the same page as the Jailer, Old God Yogg-Saron and the Void Lord Dimensius.

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“N’Zoth whispers: The Light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all.”

Calia Menethil??

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That was my guess but I didn’t see it as a bad thing. N’zoth makes it sound bad because he feels threatened by it.

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Yes, we did.

Predictions are only predictions if they are clear enough to be used before the events happen. If they only become clear in hindsight then they’re just rambling.

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I was thinking this too. It’s hard to follow or make decisions off advice when said advice is so cryptic you have no real idea what it meant until after it happened.

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This was a great catch. Now we can pretty much definitively put those whispers in the “solved” category.

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You’ll need to brain this one out for me. I don’t think personally she fits with this prophecy.

Such is the nature with prophecy. Prophecy is fantastic at telling you quite a bit without telling you anything at all. We didn’t listen is mostly me just making a more of a humorous take on that theme.

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I am actually on board with this. The Light in his whispers seems like it was Azshara, AKA the Light of Lights.

The enemy of all seems to the the Jailer. Sylvanas, as a like-minded ally, has been acting as a proxy for this entity on Azeroth.

Taking all this into consideration what you get is “Azshara struck a bargain with Sylvanas, and through this serves the Jailer’s goals.” which is factually correct.

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This is exactly what I was getting at. I just hadn’t seen anybody else connect the dots regarding these specific set of prophecies with these events yet. I just find trying to figure out Old God ramblings as a fun mental exercise.

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Il’gynoth’s statement: “From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth. Our strength.” seems to be a reference to the Faceless One known as the Black Emperor(because he takes on a twisted variant of Wrathion’s appearance).

That Faceless One is a master of the Earth just as Deathwing is. Of course it’s Ny’alotha’s Earth so it doesn’t mean he can control Azeroth’s Earth(at least not until Ny’alotha’s Earth merges with it).

“Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path.”

We now know that the Keys are Xal’atath Blade of the Black Empire, the Helm of Domination, the Heart of Azeroth, the Lantern of Helya and the Artifacts.

N’Zoth of course hoped that he would be leading the assault upon the Maw not us! He was as blind as Zul’s apprentice Vol’jamba. Zul said one must prepare for futures one has not seen.

Zul of course found out that he had fallen into the same trap as Vol’jamba did. The reason Zul was certain he’d survive was due to seeing Dazar ruling in his vision as well as his grand return. He did not realize the two events were unrelated and didn’t spare him from second death until it was too late.

Zul probably also saw Decay and Death everywhere which isn’t surprising since the Maw and Scourge will be attacking soon.

N’Zoth is just another Vol’jamba not some unimaginable horror we can’t comprehend.

Vol’jamba, Zul and N’Zoth aren’t the only ones of their kind: Yogg-Saron, Viz’aduum the Watcher, Velen, Elisande and Xe’ra all fall into the trap of assuming their sight is perfect only to be proven blatantly wrong!

The forces of Void, Arcane, Fel and Light all had their visions proven limited. Sargeras’s grand design came from Viz’aduum the Watcher’s visions of the future which led to his downfall.

N’Zoth’s visions do happen in some way or another but they lack context that helps him to win.

Murozond(who lived the terrible future) may have given N’Zoth some context enough to recognize that the Black Emperor was only a Faceless and that Sylvanas is allied with the Jailer yet not even N’Zoth is above Time anymore than Murozond was.

Murozond most certainly told N’Zoth of those who could turn the tide against the Jailer yet did not give enough context about N’Zoth dying to those Mortals no matter what he said or showed.

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I know you’re know for your wild theories and head cannon but… the false black emperor is just a faceless that NZOTH send to test us! there are no secret, he is not deceiving nzoth, he is just a minion that uses illusions and his only purpose is to try to corrupt us to side with nzoth. wrathion even says something like ‘’ good to know that you guys would think so low of me’’ saying that this vision was clearly a false one and not a direct representative of the future. so you put too much credit in a boss that was supposed to be wrathion but is just a who that was created just to be our wrathion fight.

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He just doesn’t understand.

We don’t WANT to listen. We WANT the next horrible thing to break free and threaten reality. Because then we can hit it with our swords and take it’s stuff.

The murder hobos abhor peace!

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Of course N’Zoth knew it was fake! He had foresaw his fake Wrathion and definitely had enough context to know it was going to be fake long before Il’gynoth prophesised our encounter with it with the sole purpose to corrupt us to N’Zoth’s side!

The fact that Il’gynoth prophesised our encounter with the fake Wrathion and yet knew enough to hint that he would use Ny’alotha’s own Earth(Il’gynoth specifically stated “Our earth.”) indicates that N’Zoth was already planning to use the Fake Wrathion even then!

How did N’Zoth know he was going to need that plan? How did he know since Legion’s launch that Wrathion was incorruptible and he would need a fake? Because he foresaw our encounter and was given context(via seeing Fake Wrathion exposed in the vision itself or by Murozond blurting it out) to know that the Wrathion we’ll fight was a fake since the start of Legion!

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And people said it was elune

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of course he foresaw he was the master of the fake wrathion… this make no sense o_O it is like you’re saying that the lich king foresaw our battle against lord Marrongar, he was the guardian of the spire, of course we would need to battle him first before climbing the tower.

the fake wrathion was an illusion to make us turn to his side nothing less and nothing more, i think you’re putting too much faith in a first raid boss.