Them being punching bags isn’t the problem. The crusade has honestly just reached that point where they outlived their usefulness as a story tool.
After Gilneas, hopefully we don’t have to deal with them for a long long time. If ever again.
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Partially. It is a problem when some of the people punching them - the Forsaken - are worse people than the Scarlets ever were.
Other than that, I agree with you… with the caveat that if we see them again I hope it’s not yet more one-dimensional punching bags.
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The forsaken being worse doesn’t mean the crimes and the horrors the crusade inflicted on innocent people were lesser.
How about two dimensional punching bags than? A worgen one side, and a forsaken on another. Punching a scarlet and telling them why they’re terrible.
(Please don’t take this seriously. It’s a silly joke 
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Doesn’t it undermine that when the one punching a Third Reich member in the face are more like Third Reich member themselves? By that logic, doesn’t that mean it’d be more fun to punch a Forsaken in the face?
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I mean, punching forsaken in the face is an extremely satisfying thing. I like to think I’m pretty consistent in wanting to punch horrible people in the face
Good to know you’re consistent.
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These paws are equal opportunists 
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I mean yeah, Given he orchistrated the blighting of Darkshore and the POW camps… I would love to see Belomont meet the end he deserves, for example. But I recognize that as a PC race, the Forsaken get special story warping qualities which NPC groups like the Scarlets do not.
They can freely let you punch the Scarlets, or any similar group because they were expressly designed for it.
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Insert token Alynsa rant about the issues with villainizing and entire playable faction, especially one race, and how it ruins not only that faction’s narrative but also extends far beyond.
The mental gymnastics it takes me to justify Alynsa murdering void cultists when the worst they have done so far is the equivalent of what I had to do for my daily quests against the Alliance, without simply accepting that my Horde characters are just pure sociopathic serial killers currently pointed in the right direction, makes it hard to type out the entire rant. You’ve all seen plenty, so just imagine I typed out a witty one!!
And these void cultists, they didn’t even burn down a single elf tree!! They didn’t even try!!!
At least in the end, the primalists tried.
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A well-written antagonist would be enough.
Xal’atath is a bitter disappointment.
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Honestly, there are extremely few well written villains in media in general. You have your Darth Vader, Nagash, palpatine, Arthas/Lich King, just to name a few of the more well known ones.
Larger than life characters who made an impact and became super popular for a reason.
Yeah they really butchered the lore of the Scarlets.
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Problem with Wow is that originally it started as a sanbox of adventures. Then burning crusade happen and we have a more linear story with a big bad.
My fear of the story is after we killed every god, deamon, void, dragon etc. Whose left? Once the comso are explored the lore and stories of Warcraft becomes dull.
On the main topic:
I agree that scarlet crusade was a pretty good villian and at times a threat is grounded to reality I like. Its a very missed opportunity to become a deeper conflict for the Alliance as the Scarlet’s crusade becomes an encroachment to the church and Argent Crusade. Imagine seeing conflicts inside the alliance because Humans have some fantatics and bitter groups whose disdained other races.
Blizzard is walking egg shells now with the politics of wow that they had to infantize the franchise, so instead of grounded villian factions like Defias, Burning Blade, and Scarlet Crusade, we got cosmic loot pinatas.
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Can’t be disappointed if you never had expectations tapping head meme.
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The new gods we made to replace the past gods, brand new never-before-seen demons, the void’s boss Bootes, the children of the dragons, and so forth.
As long as we replace what we kill, we shall never run out of things to murder.
Also, First Ones. And then their creators, their dragons, their demons. And so on and so forth.
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Well, off hand…
- 12.0 we beat up the Void Lords and take their lunch money
- 13.0 we beat up Titans and take and take their lunch money
- 14.0 we likely realize beating up Void left the Light out of balance and go to the Arathi Empire to beat it up too
- 15.0 the Botani try to start a new Evergrowth and that leads to us beating up Life… who knows perhaps a forsaken will get to behead Elune or something. Gotta keep raising the stakes right?
- 17.0 Denathrius comes with a rebuilt Fel Legion now that everyone seems beat up and out of the way. We Beat him up, takes his lunch money, and send him back to Oribos to be chucked into the maw as its only resident.
- 18.0 the unknown enemy of Zovaal comes to eat the universe and all the brow beat cosmic forces work together and we beat it up and take its lunch money.
- It is now getting into the mid-to-late 2030’s and we are all now likely either playing VR games or are slaves to Skynet. Either way, no need to go further.
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Sure, just not in this expansion since it’s Void-driven.
I’m thinking that the Arathi Empire might be where we get our Light-powered baddies.
Kail, you forgot an expansion in the middle of it where we spend two years hanging out with some magical race of immortal beings. The, IDK, Unicorn Asterix I think.
That way in 20.0 we can beat up the First Ones, or at least their token one lone rogue member, who really believes his evil acts are for the greater good (the greater good), because a multiverse divided cannot stand against what… is… to… commmmmmmme.,…
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Almost certainly, bonus points if a certain Light Mother sends the Arathi empire visions of joining a glorious army to defeat all shadows and make all one under the Light, so he commands the empire build a grand portal and out of it steps Yrel and her light bound slave army.
Nah they wake up, realize their universe was flawed, and we defeat them to prevent them from changing the cosmic wallpaper. Bonus points if the progenitors are named things like Met’zan and Dan’user.
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Do I get to vote for Skynet?