We can't have any more well-written Light antagonists?

[Thadeus-caelestrasz]

I never said it wasn’t in the cards. I’m saying how it’s been handled is poorly written so far.

@Drahliana-earthen-ring

That’s your point of view. And since you’re determined to flogg this dead horse to undeath, I’ll remind you; From mine, she was trying to inflict a state on him that he didn’t want, and it’s reasonable to assume that she was trying to make him into her tool. Especially given the Mag’har account. She was given ample opportunity to back off and she refused to do so.

Be careful , condemning those actions is objective morality, something you have shown a pathological aversion to. You either have to leave subjective morality to say that or acknowledge your opposition to her actions is hollow - just your opinion; the two are mutually exclusive. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

@Alynsa-wyrmrest-accord

I really don’t think that would help. The Horde already opposed a popular character in the form of Jaina. That certainly has not put them in a position where they are less immoral than void cultists who have barely done anything, and have not come close to touching the Horde’s body count by any measure. In fact, all it did was lead to further villainization of a playable faction (the Horde). Having void cultists actively oppose Jaina for instance does not somehow de-villainize the Horde, because we blew up her whole city, then tried to murder her our own selves.

I think you misunderstood what my post was about.

Good point. Perhaps because the Horde as a whole are also popular. It could work if the other character or group is not popular. If it was Joe Blow the centaur warlord clashing with Jaina, fans would be baying for Joe’s head (I’ve said in the past if Xe’ra had tried to Lightforge Gallywix by force people wouldn’t have complained; not even if it was Ji Firepaw, I think).

Reminds me of this old thread of mine (which aged far too well given a certain lawsuit);

Is the World of Warcraft story anti-justice?

Between all these “revenge is bad” stories, letting edgier characters escape punishment for their crimes and being contrarians attacking everything even vaguely resembling objective morality in their setting, it feels like Blizzard is saying “justice is bad”. Think about it, there’s all these stories in Warcraft about people seeking to take down those who’ve wrong them (eg; Genn, Tyrande, many minor characters) where the person seeking to hurt someone who’s done wrong is treated as in the wrong…