Ways to increase Frost DK survivability in PVE and PVP

Aside from “Just buff deathstrike” what other ways can blizzard buff Frost DK survivability? Death strike historically looking at past expansions been undertuned or overtuned and never really well balanced given its tradeoff with froststrike.

Me personaly, I think death strike should be exclusive to blood spec, and frost dk gets some sort of “Frozen armor” passive that gives you a 20% absorb shield every 20 seconds similiar to Prydaz legendary

I think I can hold my own quite well in most situations. I play RBGs so maybe there’s more difficulty surviving in Arenas or open-world content. Anti-Magic Shell could potentially last longer or leave behind 5-10% armor after the duration.

Making froststrike a bigger % of our ST damage and Deathstrike healing as much as it does in PvE is the answer. That way there is a real meaningful choice of what you are pressing. If you get pressured into DSing it means your damage drops off. It also means people will look to use CC offensively on you rather than just always saving it for PoF and completely shutting down your win condition.

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I think there should be a some kind of defensive passive tied to Remorseless Winter. Since the death knight has freezing air whirl around them, thatd cause ice to build up on their armor, and would likely linger for a few seconds after remorseless winter’s duration.

Id think something like this would be a PvP talent, but just having it baked into the DKs kit would be cool too. Another idea is to tie it into Everfrost, making it apply 1% damage reduction stacking up to 5-10 times?

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I really like the idea of remorseless winter giving an absorb shield when you activate it! That sounds badass and cool!

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They could probably make a more interesting version, but for pvp id say they should get rid of that god awful death and decay honor talent and give us back something like death siphon or conversion.

It’d be even cooler if it interacted with Permafrost in some way, like allowing Autoattacks to grant triple the absorb shield (120% instead of 40%) while Remorseless Winter is active. That way there’s a defensive incentive to keep it going. Then just adjust Gathering Storm to give more time but less damage boost to RW (Or none at all if it gets out of hand) and you have a legitimate reason to keep up the pressure: free decent shielding so you CAN keep up the pressure.

bring back Toughness the more armor you have the more you get, bladed armor the more armor you have the more damage you do.
add armor to vet for dps
prolly add the effects of blood pres and improved blood pres to vet
bake death sy into DS and DC when activating lich you can fire it at stuff and get a big heal as well target yourself or lose the self target

bring back Wod death advance and back the speed of unholy pres into it

Completely agree.