sure it was. people were doing aoe pulls in dungeons all the time. i was one of them.
regardless, i get you hate m+, but even it its removed, the way the playerbase plays the game wont magically devolve back into whatever romanticized version of vanilla wow you remember playing when you were 11 years old.
ever heard of pandoras box?
No, you misunderstand. Its not the same kinda aoe pulls. They were much slower paced and were not a soup of aoe. Also wotlk is when the game started to get even worse.
semantics now? lol. no duh its different because the game isnt exactly the same down to the exact pixel. but we were doing aoe pulls and aoeing down packs of mobs in wotlk so no, your original point of saying the invention of m+ did this is false.
Aw womp womp.
you just conceded and said it was different. You may like m+ and thats fine but I did not see wotlk dungeon runs in any way as crazy as today
theres no debating with a stupid person. your right m+ totally created this issue even though every pug was aoe pulling in wotlk. thanks for the history lesson
I condone wall-to-wall giant pulls.
I do not condone dogwater tanks that donât actually get any aggro before doing it.
ya i mean if its gonna happen, the least they can do is be good at it.
Because dungeons used to be a form of content padding, eventually entirely phased out.
fine by me if its fun, which it was. Had good characters and epic moments in it too.
Which is cool, but dungeons have shifted, now.
I get my cool dungeon moments in Mythic+.
Just like I donât get cool raid moments in LFR; I get them in Normals or up.
Unrelated, weird that it updated my mog but not my level.
Well I was just posting my opinion about it. I think the way things have shifted is regression, not progression. A true mmorpg immersive experience was vanilla wow and its never going back. Sure things could be improved. But they changed, not improved.
Itâs moments like this Iâm glad I got to play a large variety of games. Had I stuck with WoW and WoW alone when Vanilla released, Iâd never have known what getting immersed into a game was really like.
Iâm sorry, I just canât sympathize with it. Vanilla and Classic; neither immersed me at all.
Nor does retail, for what itâs worth. WoW is a gamey game.
Fortnite doesnât have tanks. 
Pulling the whole instance has existed long before it too.
Thatâs how Remix taught us to play.
Hello,
Go do Follower Dungeons,
Hope this helps!
Oh weâre blaming Remix today. At least thatâs fresh.
Fortnite? If you arenât going Warframe levels of speed, you are going too slow.
With follower dungeons, normals are fated to die.
M+ mentality trickled down to every other piece of content, sadly.
âIf youâre not at top speed, youâre doing it wrong.â
For all those âthatâsâ just the way it is now⌠just wait for the healer fall out that is coming. I donât care if everyone wants to speed run heroics, the class that is getting stressed are the healers. And donât give me that âthey must be a bad healerâ BS. I am hearing from just about every class of healer that they are just feedup with this. Doesnât matter if they are capable of having to heal through this⌠they shouldnât be forced too. So for the grown ups here (not the I want to PWN everything youngsters) donât be surprised when it starts getting real hard to get a healer for groups. Not blaming the tanks for this - it is just the overall mindset these days. ⌠unfortunately.