…is found in guild-run pugs and so invisible you may not of even realized it was happening.
Unless you trust the guild very well, I would NEVER go to “guild-run” pugs because it’s way too easy for them to silently ninja the item away from you, and statistically it’ll work most of the time, and you may not of even knew it even happened.
How? Well it’s simple, let’s say DST drops in Gruul and it wasn’t reserved. PUG rolls a 98. Guild realizes this and tells all of their melee, hunters, or w/e in g chat to just roll for it, to try to beat the pugs roll and keep it from them. (even if they don’t need it to “keep it in the guild”. AKA, they ninja’d the item away by using all their guildies as sock puppets to roll for it (Even if they don’t need it or have something better) then trade it to the guildy who lost it to a pug during the ms>os roll.
Then they will wait for the raid to end… and trade it to the person in their guild who wanted it (and didn’t roll high enough initially), aka ninjaing it away from the PUG who rightly won the item as an upgrade.
SR is better than a full “MS>OS” guild run but if I were you I’d avoid them like the plague… unless you’re in the guild running it, then all power to you. Just farm and squeeze those pugs for all their worth and keep the items they want away from them, have all your warriors roll on spiteblade as MS (even if they don’t need it/have something better) so that the guild rogue can grab it since he failed in the initial roll.
Because it’s more hidden (from the pugs perspective they just lost the roll to a contested item) it’s extremely rampant in megaservers and statistically because the guild usually has a huge numbers advantage they statistically can mass roll thru their members and ninja away the item from the pug that won it.
I saw every single mages n lock in a guild-run Gruul MAIN SPEC rolling against PUGs on Magus Blade and some of them had Mindblade equipped. Holy LOL.
Tl;dr: Never join guild-run PUGs unless you trust them, it’s all too often and easy for the guild hosting to have their guildies mass roll for an item if a pug is about to win it, just to keep it away from them, then hand the item over to the guild member that wanted it after raid.
It’s the most rampant and discrete way of ninja looting and should be avoided, ESPECIALLY during new raid tier (T6) as they will roll on everything to keep it in the guild.
