In the Warcraft 3 Cenimatic where the Helm is speaking to Arthas before he uses the sword on the ice… there was a voice
The voice commanded “Release me from this prison”
Who was it? Was it possibly the Jailer speaking to Arthas from the Shadowlands?
It was Ner’zhul, the original Lich King.
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No its been long known it was Ner’zul. The prison was the iceblock the helmet and armor was stuck inside.
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Yes but is Nerzul just some kind of incarnation of the Jailer?
I’m digging deeper into it than what originally was presented
No. Ner’zhul was an Orc.
He was the teacher of Gul’dan, and he crossed the Burning Legion and got turned into an angry ice cube for it.
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Ner’zhul was the elder shaman of Draenor.
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Here’s my conspiracy theory.
Recently a book datamined that hints towards Dreadlords playing 40-D Chess with the galaxy.
Mal’ganis and The Dreadlords were responsible for The Scourge and leading Arthas to Frostmourne, which THEY got from The Shadowlands.
Gul’dan summons Mal’ganis in Legion, but Mal’ganis disappears and is never seen again.
Dreadlords are working with Sire Denathrius whose working for The Jailer, therefore The Lich King was all apart of The Jailers plans.
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I don’t think y’all see what I’m saying
Even Bolvar claimed he would be “The Jailer of the damned” when he told his brother to place the crown in his head
There are so many references to the Lich King being the “Avatar” if you will of “The Jailer” himself…
Perhaps Arthas will become the new Jailer in Shadowlands
If there must always be a Lich King on Azeroth then perhaps there must always be a jailer in the Shadowlands!
The Jailer is in fact Millhouse Manastorm in disguise taking his revenge for being trapped in Arcatraz…
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Bolvar claimed he’d be the “Jailer the damned”, because that is literally the Lich King’s role, to control the “damned”, which is how people usually refer to the Scourge (army of the damned, cult of the damned, so on).
Also Tirion isn’t Bolvar’s brother.
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That’s the Jailers job in the Shadowlands too
and it wont be until we defeat the Dreadlords that we learn somebody else was playing 41-D Chess.
It was The Windchimes all along.
They pretended to be tricked but were actually tricking the tricksters.
You mean until we get to the expansion where we’d be fighting the dreadlords. Blizzard doesn’t have the attention span to focus on the threat they spent 2 years building up to, like how the majority of Legion was building up N’Zoth, or how BfA was primarily about building up Sylvanas and the Shadowlands.
Ner’Zul was an orc who was used by the legion to possess the helm and become “the lich King”. None of this has anything to do with the jailer, there’s been many “prisons” over WoW’s history - Ulduar’s prison for old god, N’Zoth’s prison, C’thun’s prison, Lich King Ner’zul’s prison, Sargeras’s prison on pantheon chair, ect. Legion stole lich king helmet and armor and frostmourne.
That was the voice of Ner’zhul, the predecessor to Arthas. Although Ner’zhul didn’t make a particularly good Lich King as he lacked a body, but that’s what Arthas was for.
Supposedly they fused together when he put on the helm, but I think something else happened at the same time that we didn’t really know about until now.
The Jailer probably had some influence over Ner’zhul / Arthas, though to what extent I do not know.
They kind of mirrored the LK with the Jailer Torgast is even a mirror of icecrown citadel, it will be interesting to see how they go with that.
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I pretty sure arthas was intentionally made by the jailer in some way or the god of death made him to claim the soul of azeroth, which all the baddies seem to want azeroth dead for some reason.
My theory is that Icecrown is a physical extention of Torghast, almost growing into the real world. Of course it’s manufactured by the scourge slaves, but it spreads almost like a (un)living thing.
Maybe this melding of the physical world with the shadowlands had something to do with Sylvanas’s mission to delete reality.
Fixed that for you
Apparently they’re saying that the helm and Frostmourne originally came from the Shadowlands, specifically some shadowy denizen of the Maw. How Sargeras got them and used them as a prison for Ner’Zhul is something we may or may not find out later