Now that we know those blue crystal things are souls(or at least part of them), is Arthas’ soul what was use to create Anduin’s new weapon?
IMO top contenders are:
- Arthas
- Terenas
- Somehow Varian
- Somehow Tiffin (his mom)
Terenas was noticeably absent from the list of souls:
Or hell, maybe both. Nobody said one crystal one soul
edit: oh wait JK Terenas is there
I’d be shocked if that blue crystal from the Kingsmourne cinematic wasn’t Arthas’ soul, or at least part of it. Aside from the whole knockoff-Arthas look that Anduin has going on, there’s a very brief quote of “Invincible” later in that same cinematic as Anduin walks past Uther, and the cinematics have been making cinematic callbacks to Arthas using Anduin since BfA. As I see it, they might as well go all the way and actually have Arthas be connected somehow, rather than just having Anduin be superficially similar to him. Being stuck in a sword would be a taste of his own medicine after the times he gleefully said “Frostmourne hungers!” while using it to steal someone’s soul.
The real question is what happens when the blade is split in two as a mourneblade? Will the soul inside split as well? Will the magic be broken? Maybe that’s how this ends. Anduin breaks free just for a MOMENT, is able to break the sword into it’s two halves, and then the control itself is rendered useless. No more domination, because the thing inside the blades doesn’t work anymore.
Unless Zovaal accounted for the blade’s ability to split? shrug But it didn’t seem like it when he was having it made… it was still a single blade, and they just kind of hammered the soul stone into it? Hrrrrmmm.
EDIT: Oh, and my official position on who is inside the mourneblade is Arthas. Once the blade splits in two, perhaps Arthas will break free, and the two would-be Lich Kings, Anduin and Arthas, kill Zovaal together. Perhaps accompanied by EVERY OTHER CITIZEN OF AZEROTH that was ever wronged by the Jailer’s actions. I’m sure Jaina will be there, for reunion stuff with Arthas.
I mean
He made Frostmourne
Frostmourne broke when it broke in half
Now he made Kingsmourne from a sword that automatically splits in half
seems like he accounted for it
It does seem like that. But what actually happened is another matter. It’s just a thought. We haven’t seen it split yet once since it was made into a mourneblade, and I just have to wonder why. This is my theory.
imo it’ll be when it splits in half, one will be Paladin Arthas and one will be Lich King Arthas
You do realize the Arthas Novel makes clear that the half that was inside Death Knight Arthas was the Child Version of Arthas right?
The half inside Frostmourne was the bitter Paladin who picked up Frostmourne for the sake of saving his people and avenging the civilians against the Scourge while treating his soldiers as discardable tools.
Funny how the Maw managed to retain it’s tether to the child version of Arthas allowing Sylvanas to meet him while failing to retain the bitter Paladin who needed Uther to toss him into the Maw which I’m sure probably happened after Sylvanas’s visit!
Yes but we are working towards Light vs Void expansion so Lights Arthas vs Death Arthas makes more sense
Light Arthas would best be the bitter Paladin who goes to insane extremes(which would be vindicated once he learns of what Xe’ra was doing) while Death Arthas would be the Child trapped in a Body which he could not control constantly exposed to the Death Magic said Body was running on!
So stupid. Anduin should be the opposite of Arthas. Sure, they look similar, but Arthas was pride, failure, and fall. Anduin should have been humility(which he has), success(moderately has at least), and a rise. Is it a rehash of a theme?
Ugh. I don’t think I’ll come within 10 miles of the forums ever again if that expansion actually occurs. Light will be villainized and history will be rewritten yet again, so us MHPs will, even more than usual, be villainized along with it.
Yeesh.
Do we even know that it is made to split?
You’re probably not going to like this, but I do not think it’s ever going to be addressed.
We know from empowering Shadowmourne that countless soul shards go into crafting a moutneblade and we know that many of the soul shards kept in Torghast are of the many forgotten victims of the Lich King. I think it very likely that it was not just one soul shard that went into making Kingsmourne, but many, and they are all likely of no real significance to the plot.
In short, there is no single soul trapped in the Mournblade right now except maybe for Anduin himself. When and if Kingsmourne splits in half it will have no effect aside from allowing Anduin to duel wield.
Guess we’ll find out.
If it wasn’t hard to make Mourneblades (and their wielders), there’d be a ton of them. So it must be so that a big name soul was required to make it, so probably Arthas.
Can you imagine, though, the stress the Kingsmourne blacksmith was under? He had one crystal, one shot to not mess up, and the Jailer was literally standing over his shoulder as he made it.
Didn’t matter since the Jailer was most certainly dominating him making sure the stress at least didn’t interfere with the forging. The Jailer’s own blacksmithing skills on the other hand… Let’s say the Jailer was lucky he didn’t botch the forging despite having absolute control over the Mawsworn forging it!
Maybe it’s like an overly picky art commissioner except he’s the guy you sold your soul to when making questionable fan art.
“Are you sure that’s a goat head motif? It looks like a deer to make. I want the skull to look like an angry face. And make sure the horns curl around the crossguard. Can you make the base look like a little warglaive too? Then reforge the damn thing if you have to! The customer is always right, you know. I told you, I’m paying you in exposure; everybody’s going to see this thing and know it came from you. Oh, and put these runes on the side. No, I can’t read it, but the guy promised they translate to ‘Domination’. I’ll check your progress in half an hour.”
I don’t think it’s a rehash, more like a comparison and contrast. That said, I don’t think it’s necessary to use so many visual call backs to Arthas to show that Anduin is different from him, since Anduin’s character and personality are already well established, so I’m not sure what the point is of showing that contrast unless Arthas is going to somehow be relevant to what happens. As it stands, the similarities between Arthas and Anduin are almost entirely cosmetic; if anything the similarity might be more relevant to Jaina, given her (unjustified) feelings of guilt over Arthas’ corruption and her close relationship with Anduin. We know she was still struggling with survivor’s guilt in BfA in regards to Arthas, feeling that he might still be alive if she’d only tried harder to persuade him, and now she’s sworn to save Anduin from being lost to the same being that was responsible for the Lich King.
Anyone who thinks Anduin is repeating Arthas isn’t paying even one lick of attention. Arthas was evil before he turned. He wanted to do evil before he turned. He burned his own people before he turned. He burned his ships before he turned. He chose to murder Muradin in exchange for turning.
Anduin specifically told Sylvanas that he didn’t get a say in this, that she had all of the power. He was half right. He didn’t have a say, but the Jailer was the one with all of the power. Anduin is coming out of this pure and spotless, because the Alliance cannot have villains under Nu-Blizz’s purview.
Clearly neither were you. Out of all those things? Only the ship burning happened before he took up Frostmourne and lost his soul. Everything else happened AFTER he took up the blade.
What’s this about burning people? Is that supposed to be the Culling of Stratholme? I thought that takes place before Frostmourne, because it’s what spurs Arthas into chasing down Mal’ganis to Northrend.