Warstomp is the best racial

Hear me out… Orc stun is good but has 3/4 chance it won’t proc. Every time.

Will of the forsaken is second best because it is also 100%

Troll are useless for PVP.

Tauren has the extra health and 100% on CD aoe stun. Which for the classes tauren can play is the best thing you could have.

Alliance PVP racial all suck aside from stoneform.

Tauren PVP God change my mind.

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Escape Artist is amazing for warriors. It completely changes several typically disadvantageous matchups for warrior.

Stone form is good when applicable. But the real prize is Dwarf Priest. Fear Ward da best.

Perception is mediocre. It’s good if you know a stealther is around.

Shadowmeld is OP in retail, but pretty meh in classic.

Orc stun resist can be stacked with talent stun resist and is pretty amazing.

Trolls are lol.

Will of the Forsaken is great in group pvp or against Warlocks/Priests.

Warstomp is very nice for several classes.

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Here’s the issue with escape artist. And i like gnomes. But the cast time sucks. And it’s one use. So against mages for anything really they can just rank 1 frost bolt or reapply whatever it is.

Fear Ward is awesome true. But for PVP undead plague is better.

Perception sucks. Only good in arena and dueling. Sure if u want to be the best at rogue v rogue duel then go human but in wpvp it’s useless you’ll never see them coming to begin with .

Shadowmeld not being used in combat is bad. Aside from hunter aim shot.

Warstomp is the best. Use on demand. And it’s aoe. Gives hunter a chance to reset. Gives shaman a hard cc. Warrior can never have enough cc, same with druid.

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I mean, I played a Tauren in vanilla. It is a castable aoe that can be pushed back to 1.5second cast time. A lot of damage can happen with in 1.5 seconds. It isn’t nearly as good as you’re thinking it is.

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and if you cast it while you aren’t gonna be taking damage for half a second, then it’ll only take half a second to cast

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any engineer has improved war stomp.

you don’t even have to think about using orc racial, it can’t be counter played, and it gets more powerful the more often you get stunned.

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Yeah, I know but if you’re not getting hit it usually means you’re probably fighting one person then it isn’t any more amazing than a stun from a class ability and thus not making it is be all end all top racial as this thread is suggesting.

OP has this grand idea that going to run in and get full group of aoe stun on a bunch of Alliance, which just didn’t happen enough to suggest that it is better than 25% resist stuns on passive.

and with leeway its like 500 yrds

Yup. Undead and orc 2nd and 3rd.

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Bro it’s an extra stun what are you even talking about? Didn’t know you could have too much cc. Sure grenades but even they have a cool down, can’t just repeat spam grenades as far as I know? Cc is a game changer in every situation. Plus grenades can miss if you’re playing against skilled players.

That’s why its only really good on warriors. Specifically to break druid root or frost nova. And it’s a game changer. The number of times I EA’d out and two shot a druid or mage who wasn’t expecting it is more than I can count.

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No. You’re wrong. And I’m ok with you living in that delusion, because that gives me the advantage.

I’m saying that it isn’t any better than the on use racial abilities in turns of pvp. It is a stun that can be made into a 1.5 second cast. I wouldn’t go and call that OP let alone build an entire character around it.

As someone who’s played a Tauren since vanilla Warstomp isn’t OP, its useful and I’ve had some clutch stuns before but for every clutch stun I’ve gotten I’ve also died during that cast time. I hope you get out of it that you want, just don’t be so disappointed when it doesn’t get you all these leet kills in pvp.

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Says advantage…

Posted from a tauren .

Okay this is off-topic but that image is really bothering me.
Wtf is that in the back seat?
Aaand, why is there even a back seat in the Batmobile??

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Lol. I said the same thing when I seen it. I have no idea so it makes it even cooler. :smile:
Ther look on Robin’s face. Lol

I was alliance in Classic and hands down the horde racials are amazing period.

Tauren is very much under rated, especially for Shaman / Druid / Hunter

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There is a good argument for troll shadow priests. Shadowguard + blackout and hex of weakness, which is a ranged mortal strike debuff.

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Nope they are not useless, you attack/cast faster and deal 5% more damage to beasts such as druids. Berserk is probably more useful in pvp then warstomp is for casters.