Warriors Bottom Tier for Raid - Need Serious Buffs

According to the latest heroic logs this week, warriors are now near or dead last in damage. You can see the charts here:

Our burst window is great if everything aligns, but even then, it’s not strong enough to keep us anywhere in the top or middle of the pack. Plus everything has to be perfect during that burst window, meaning if the tank moves the boss for any reason, or you have to move to avoid damage, you can pretty much guarantee your damage that attempt or kill is going to be garbage. It’s so annoying.

I’m not sure how they fix this, but warriors in Raids right now, are just really bad. I quit shadowlands during the first tier because Fury was in a similar boat. And if nothing is done to correct this, I’m probably going to unsub again. I have zero interest in playing other classes or specs. I shouldn’t have to change what I play because the balance team at Blizzard has no idea what they are doing.

I think for started they can look at tier. Our 4 set literally does nothing right now because Execute doesn’t hit hard enough. That button should be meaningful to press, but it’s not. For starters they could buff that. Or make it so the Execute procs you get are empowered and do more damage.

Next we need to talk about our damage outside of CD’s. It needs help. Go watch anyone play fury, and watch how fast they fall when CD’s are up. It’s laughably bad. Like a rock sinking in water. They need to adjust either auto-attacks, or something.

Next, let’s talk about whirlwind. Improved whirlwind should be baseline. You shouldn’t have to spec into it to get the effect that makes your next 2 attacks cleave. That should just be how Whirlwind works baseline for fury. And you can spec into it to get Meat Cleaver which makes the next 4 abilities hit harder. Then add a new talent that makes it uncapped. Cause right now most bosses have some sort of adds that pop up throughout the fight. Which means if you go straight single Target, you literally can’t do anything to those adds, unless your CD’s are up to give you that proc, but even then. That’s for 4 attacks??? That’s really bad.

Overall the class needs help in raids. Again, I don’t have the answers, but it’s clearly lacking. And it’s far enough in the cycle where people have bis gear, so the meters aren’t really going to change much. Blizzard please give warriors a serious buff. Please don’t drive people away from the class. we don’t need to be top, but at least put us middle or top middle. And I’m talking about fury. I could care less about arms.

Also on a side note, I really hate that they added the option for single minded fury. I get people want to re-live the classic days. But with that as an option, it’s literally creating balance issues within the spec. Before it was just Arms vs Fury. Now it’s Arms vs Fury TG vs Fury SMF. And Blizzard can’t balance the way it is, so now we have more for them to consider. Just give warriors the ability to Mog 2 handers into 1 handers. Boom, issue fixed.

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And people keep saying that Fury is in a good spot. Unfortunately Blizzard don’t seem to pay attention to class forums as much as the General one.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/fury-warrior-needs-changes-asap-please

Make them see that Fury needs help, this can’t keep going for long before we have to swap classes to be competitive…

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I’d love for both ww talents being baseline. Even just removing those talents to make it baseline so we could put those talents elsewhere would be great.

Looks like arms is doing pretty well.

No is it is not, it a little better in damage and even so still only the 18 position, but sucks in everything else.

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It’s sitting in the upper third on actual boss fights. What am I missing?

Telling a person that arms is doing better, has nothing to do with fury being bad. In fact, you’re ignoring the problem. I don’t care if arms is in 1st place, the issue is fury is near dead last.

If you went to a doctor and told them your right arm was hurting, and they told you, “well your left arm is fine.” What would you say? “Aww geese thanks doc, I didn’t think of that. I’ll completely change my lifestyle to being left handed, when I’m more comfortable and set up for right.”

Please keep these comments from the thread. Arms is not what needs to be discussed here.

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But you said:

Make up your mind. Are you talking about the class or just fury.

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If you read the full post, I’m clearly talking about just fury. I guess I should of said that in the title. I am sorry.

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If you look at all of the charts, Arm warriors are not in a good place. They have some fights that are really good for them but that’s it.

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Stealth and range classes have a huge advantage. warriors need a defensive buff!!

Stealth and range classes have a huge advantage. warriors need a defensive buff!!

Arms is not in a good spot either. They rank at 18 in this list lol.

A defensive buff wouldn’t help out fury warriors with our damage being poor in raids.

Fix Fury’s Execute, people have given all kinds of great suggestions on here, and fix the tier set so it works for both spec’s. That’d go a long way to de-sucking us.

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It’s not even a good talent point either, no one uses it when every Fury goes for TG due to the high Strength stat and damage it does compared to SMF. It honestly should just be removed and give Mog 2 handers into 1 handers and it would completely fix this issue entirely. Something the community was BEGGING blizzard to do for ages and wonders why they’re so stubborn in giving people what they wanted in the first place.