Both specs are a nightmare. I don’t care if they’re not getting play in AWC, they’re a cancer on the retail ladder. We just got out of DH hell and then you just replaced them with warriors. You toned down ferals, DKs, monks, rets, and now we have god damned arms and fury warriors running rampant, one of each in every shuffle lobby. Agreed, nerf rogues too, but definitely nerf warriors.
Why do we always need one over the top, oppressive melee? Why can’t we just play a balanced game without something ruining the experience for everyone else?
Kinda of a shock to me, we went from Stormbolt and double charge being mutually exclusive, to not being exclusive and they root and charge. Also spear lol
It’s the fact that almost every single spec has some type of ability to get them or their teammate out of spear and people still cry about it. Its already nerfed in pvp, and arms isn’t any stronger then it was before the patch all they did was get ignore pain and extra talent point. Ignore pain was over exaggerated, it’s not some godly life saver. They also lost burst dmg for more sustain, they lost a whole talent that buffs MS dmg stop crying and just get better.
I leveled my arms warrior first when DF dropped and it was a meme compared to fury, then it started getting buffs to MS damage, then overpower filler etc and now it’s in a good spot. Most people I play with don’t feel like arms is oppressively OP as pre-nerf DH, UH, or Feral.
I think, for a class that has a root baked into its gap closer, hamstring+piercing howl and a really strong ranged stun(for some reason) that it really doesn’t need spear to hold people down for them. Spear should pull once.
And as a previous warrior player, let me just say that most warriors really hate spear. It’s clunky. Sometimes it doesn’t come out fast enough, sometimes you’ll toss it perfectly onto someone and it doesn’t appear until they’ve walked away from the zone. Sometimes it’ll be ON the person and they’ll walk out. A lot of classes have a way to glitch out the tether.
It’s honestly just such a stupid ability from an expansion where a bunch of stupid ideas were added to the game, and it’s honestly kind of wild to see any reminder of Shadowlands abilities anywhere in the game to be completely honest
Like I said ignore pain isn’t some game changer, I have a full conq geared warrior and it’s only a 50k bubble on a 11 sec cd. Die by the sword does nothing when it comes to magical damage and disgusting dots, you’re showing you sure know your stuff but seeing as you don’t even own a warrior it would make sense that you don’t.
arms is fine, there are multiple casters that feel very oppressive to play against and less complaint threads about them.
i agree that arms isnt the most “anti-magic” melee out there, but ignore pain does help some and die by the sword is still a 30% DR for what its worth. also reflecting is a 20% magic DR for 5 sec. i care less about my own safety vs casters even tho im more vulnerable, my biggest issue is id like to see safeguard comeback so u can help teammates against them, but this is the downside im assuming blizzard intended. (safeguard 20% dmg reduction to the target you intervene for i believe 3sec after the nerf to it in SL)
I remember when I first saw this on the beta and thought “no way will they let this go live”. Very surprised it hasn’t gotten nerfed yet.
Fun for my warrior but yeah sucks for everyone else lol
True that, I don’t play spear cuz I super suck at landing it lmao. I know my limitations! Actually though it’s kind of nice sometimes because I suspect a lot of people expect spear; seems like it takes people longer to react when I pop CDs vs. when I did run spear
except its not a shield, it turns 100k dmg taken to 50k, it is not a absorb shield. and its half our rage pool to use, so its basically same thing as a mage shield with less benefit. half the cd half the damage reduction. its literally 1 crit and its gone. and if you pop it at 30k life and get hit for 60k, ur still dead.