Which goes completely out the window if dps don’t feel like it.
Yup, and those people are typically the ones who whine that they cannot find tanks.
There’s a quote from the guide that I particularly like, regarding that:
Of course. But unless the healer does the same and lets them die, they end up panic healing, drawing healing aggro, running out of mana and the group wipes.
At the end of the day, i purposely dont use any “dump” abilities if i know i have aggro. I keep the rage. That being said its getting harder and harder because my guild raids and i have no interest in doing so.
Totally wrong. Arms tanking 31/5/15 was the most common warrior tanking spec in vanilla. It’s still perfectly viable although a Fury spec like 0/21/20 seems to be the preferred spec for a lot of people these days.
As to the OP yeah at low levels especially the first couple of instances you are going to be rage starved and have a hard time controlling mobs without CC. If the group doesn’t want to use CC control what you can and hope your DPS knows how to deal with the ones they pull.
For single target TPS, whether they know that or not
My first live strat marking mobs went great. Everyone listened, did two runs.
My next run was…fine…but I remember the rogue in particular seemed to think the marks were just for show.
Again, thanks for all of the advice and links.
OP i am gonna be tanking deadmines too soon, i have been tank on retail but vanilla will be a new experience. I too was wandering about how to generate enough rage.
Thanks all for the advice
O M G
Just ran Deadmines again and the difference was unbelievable. Removing Heroic Strike alone was worth its weight in gold. And the battle shout thing really works.
Guys, thank you so much.
Khazzon, Dwarf of Ironforge
Please do listen to this. You must tank with a 2 handed to get rage and you must spec arms while leveling. That’s the only way I can get enough rage. I have macros to swap to sword and board and I have macros for all my attacks to switch to the correct stance so I can mocking blow from defensive stance if taint gets resisted or taunt from berserker stance.
I have switch to defensive or battle stance bound to shift mousewheel up and down so after I do a move I can switch into either as needed since you can’t so 2 stance changes reliably with a macro
So don’t listen to the bad healer. The key is communication with your healer and watching his mana
And adapt. If a pull goes south swap in sword and board and go defensive. As soon as it starts clearing go back to battle and 2 hander
If a rogue is using expose armor, it’s because you aren’t using sunder.
Spec arms, use a shield and one hander. Tab sunder, revenge when it pops. Taunt as needed. If you’re doing all that, and the mobs are still running wild it’s a DPS issue usually. As others have said, don’t use HS unless you’re nearing 100 rage and need to dump it.
Reason for going arms is you want tactical mastery and my personal experience is that arms is superior for leveling.
I’d use a shield because it is a decent amount of mitigation and because you’ll proc revenge. Wear dps gear. I’d prioritize agi at lower levels. However, if you get your whirlwind axe at level 30 you can try that out since it’s so overpowered at that level.
Warrior tanking in pugs, especially at lower levels, just sucks. It’s the price you pay for having a 60 warrior someday.
You can’t tank without rage and if you spec full prot you won’t have the tools to get rage. Take talents that will help you get rage and wear a shield in the tougher battles. You’ll be a better tank than people who go full prot and are rage-starved.
Please do listen to this. You must tank with a 2 handed to get rage and you must spec arms while leveling. That’s the only way I can get enough rage. I have macros to swap to sword and board and I have macros for all my attacks to switch to the correct stance so I can mocking blow from defensive stance if taint gets resisted or taunt from berserker stance.
I have switch to defensive or battle stance bound to shift mousewheel up and down so after I do a move I can switch into either as needed since you can’t so 2 stance changes reliably with a macro
So don’t listen to the bad healer. The key is communication with your healer and watching his mana
And adapt. If a pull goes south swap in sword and board and go defensive. As soon as it starts clearing go back to battle and 2 hander
Please learn to warrior before giving other people advice and teaching them wrong. And learn to use macros. Stance dancing can be almost fully automated.
Totally wrong. Arms tanking 31/5/15 was the most common warrior tanking spec in vanilla. It’s still perfectly viable although a Fury spec like 0/21/20 seems to be the preferred spec for a lot of people these days.
That’s because deep prot spec was terrible until the warrior talent review, and pretty mediocre until the shield slam buffs in 1.10.
(Also, the thing that the quoted post was really objecting to was the “use a 2hander” bit.)
Ok to clear up some nonsense in this thread.
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All 3 specs are perfectly capable of tanking all the way to 60, and of questing. You might not wanna go prot till 40 for shield slam but hey, You do you.
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move threat priority
Shield Slam > Revenge > Sunder > Heroic Strike.
Only HS if you can sunder on CD and might rage cap. -
Stance dancing is helpful if you have AM, but is not necessary, try pooling rage on low health mobs so you pull the next pack with full rage.
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do not overestimate your shields dmg reduction. Look at the block value compared to the hits your taking(usually its not a significant amount) and if the mobs are not crushing you(mob 3+ levels above you) then its just armor which is less of a reduction than you might think, just check your stats page.
Please do not listen to this.
- A healer.
Don’t listen to this person
- a better healer
Does it get better?
I can tell you right now that you are specced wrong.
I leveled a warrior as protection, put the beginning talents into shield spec, armor, +threat. It was an absolute nightmare trying to tank Deadmines and SFK. I experienced what you have. I deleted that warrior around 35.
A month or so later I wanted to try it again. Knowing that warriors are rage starved when tanking, I put the first 11 points into this:
~https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/05005001
It was like night and day. You get rage from charge, rage from shield block, rage from anger management, rage from enrage and you keep threat very well with shield block and revenge spam.
I leveled as prot and use the standar prot spec. But the first 11 points should be in arms, not the last 11. You will see a big difference.