you know, i’d trade you ring of peace or vivify for rallying cry.
youre not the only one with utility that isnt widely recognized heh
I’ve had plenty of warriors in my groups, ymmv…maybe there a good amount of you and you’re getting passed over for bigger warriors?
most warriors wouldnt notice either tbh
Wrong. Being melee, you have to compete with udk, ret, rogue, enhance, even ww. They all do more dmg and offer more utilities. If you are fury then it’s even worse, 5 target hard cap is a big no for m+.
Dps warrior has never been good in m+, you just picked a wrong class.
It’s just how pugging DPS is in a game where 40% of the group needs to be a healer or tank and 90% of pug players want to dps. The tanks and healers choose extremely overqualified dps, I mean with 2500 IO for a 7, because there are such dps queueing. I know because I get into these groups on my overgeared main who is farming trinkets and take a look at the queue, usually there are plenty of DPS waiting who could easily do the key, but the tank/healer group leader is waiting because they think DPS who could easily 3 chest the key will sign up and they’re right.
Retribution/reparations for what happened in Vanilla.
They’re really common too, despite their shortcomings in M+ content.
No shortage of warriors in PvP, they’re dominating over there.
As per usual, lol.
Warriors kinda feel like Rogues now, better in PvP than PvE.
Not much group utility, kind of a ‘selfish’ class lol.
Even Hunters provide buffs, can bring Lust and stuff.
Tank or suffer, war has capped aoe and no utility lol
DPS warriors collectively get the second most invites for +2/3s.
Now if you were Feral Druid, alright I understand the complaints
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Welcome to the club. Outlaw isn’t being taken because the tier lists went “QQ can’t hit more than 8 targets”. I’ve been physically removed from about 20 groups after the leaders recognized I wasn’t playing Sin.
Don’t quite understand the meta-chasing mentality. Never will. Sure, BM gets a 14 mob pull and pops off with 15M damage. People seem to not understand that doing 15M on a pack isn’t super impressive when their overall is 1M dps lower. Every single hunter I’ve ran with has that issue, it’s entertaining to me.
Path of least resistance.
People want the “hard” content to be as easy as possible, so they pick the classes that have the least difficult time.
That’s basically it.
I have more respect for those that play off-meta, always will. It’s inherently harder.
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The irony in this mentality is that the tier lists are generally opinions, and ones made by people who have biases and bad takes. The data shows us as one of the best specs at the moment.
Yes, it sounds bad that we are target capped, and for certain pulls we can’t hit a few things. The overall damage outlaw is pumping is just statistically in the top 5 specs, even post everyone else’s buffs.
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Prot war also suffers in high keys. Reroll to VDH or gtfo.
People definitely underestimate Warrior. Their damage is fairly consistent from pull to pull. Ravager is a nasty AoE burst cooldown. Most of their cooldowns are good burst period (And they’re short too).
Then you have Shockwave, Pummel, and whatever that single target stun is. Not to mention perpetual upkeep on the adds with charge.
I’ll gladly take a Warrior (But only if the other major necessities are solved). They’ll also be doing the lion’s share of interrupts.
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Warriors are fine to a degree, but they need something better than what they have now that will get them invited to pugs.
And what exactly do hunters and rogues bring?
Don’t know Bout rogues but hunters bring lust.
Hunters are ranged and can lust. two things that are good. Rogues have shroud but blizzard is determined to gut rogue skips out of the game unfortunately so they have lost value over time.
Warrior is trash in M+, other dps classes like UDK fire mage are hitting 20mil DPS on large pulls, warrior is doing half of that. UDK’s utility and survivability is also miles ahead of warrior. Picking a warrior is like handcapping your group, i never pick a warrior dps when im tanking.
Maybe it’s not all warriors?
We bring a player that shouldn’t be dying, and shouldn’t need anywhere near as much healing attention as other. And Atrophic Poison for the DR.
Now, most of the people playing the class are still terrible and refuse to use defensives, but a good rogue will lessen healer stress by existing.
Otherwise, we bring nothing. Blizzard is stupid and took away any reason to bring one by removing Rogue skips, and our utility doesn’t cover the group much. Class needs to be given a raid buff or lust or something to justify its place anywhere at this point.
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