Reroll a priest and watch each patch note essentially make warriors indirectly worse. Damage, hit, Mana, and utility adjustments for every other class every couple days. As game designers, the intent is to have warrior players not play PVP/BGs/Open World for 4 months? 6 months? How long until we ‘get good’? With all these changes it’s actually feeing like as a warrior player we actually won’t ever be top dps and slowly over SoD phases we will land in the middle somewhere while also being completely crap dmg in comparison while also having zero utility for these early phases.
The way phase 1 is being treated is quite surprising with all the tweaks and changes. It’s great to see them and ultimately make each phase seem like they are essentially their own game.
Why is warrior so neglected outside of raid environments? They are actually just total dogcrap in Open World/Pvp/BGs… unless we get the epic 2hander and essentially have BIS gear with a pocket healer… meanwhile more spell power and hand holding for casters that have already insane utility at 25 and 30+ yard range to cast their damage and spamable heals and fears with 100% uptime channeled drain life.
Blizz, do you want anyone to play warrior or nah? Do warrior players have to wait a year before getting good in PVP ? Or will every class out dmg and out utility them with the constant better rune selections by phase 2,3,4? And by that time everyone that said ‘keep waiting warriors are gonna be good at 60 or whatever’ , will be actually worse off in later phases then right now since all the tuning is happening for every other class according to 100% of blue posts and fixes since SOD launch . ZERO tuning to help warriors. By the way, warrior leveling still crap while all these other classes get free rides and are killing 10 mobs at once.
Dude.
It’s so bad no one is gonna play warrior.
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Hate to break it to you… warrior will ALWAYS be dogwater without a pocket healer. Its been like that since 2004 in wow and even longer in every other MMO… same with being extremely gear reliant.
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Imagine thinking warrior would dominate PVP in classic when it never has.
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The Warbringer rune is going to be really good once they get Intercept.
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They will be better but it won’t fix their issues. It still has a cool down.
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Warriors will be really strong as long as they have good support, it’s the same as it was. When they have support they become top tier.
They shouldn’t be though. Victory rush should be useable on ANY target and heal for 20% HP. Warriors should have MoP Second wind so they have sustain. Warriors should be relentless juggernauts! Once they gain momentum they can’t be stopped. No roots, no fears and no need for Heals.
So really hope some Healing Runes and Utility come in the next phase. Also can’t wait for Glad stance.
aww poor warrior crying he’s not top anymore. warrior was top in classic the entire time at 60. we’re not even 60. who cares.
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Warrior was never top in PVP. Did you even read the thread?
you can have a spammable heal the same patch they give rogues a spammable heal. The only warriors having a tough time right now are the ones trying to solo pvp with no warbringer, but warriors are nothing by themselves and that is for a good reason.
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I dont think OP ever played warrior in classic. You always needed a pocket priest / paladin.
Pure fallacy for all these comments about referencing classic information to make arguments on SOD. ‘Warriors always needed a pocket healer, etc etc’ - how can you use classic arguments when we’re taking about SOD where mages can heal and Warlocks have a 100% uptime channeled drain life and haunt. I played classic and this isn’t classic, so why is warrior still being treated like this is classic but all other classes aren’t?
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They’re not supposed to be a 1v1 class. They aren’t designed that way, and if you made them strong in 1v1 they’d be even more dominant than they already are in groups. You’re just bad and don’t understand the game, and are trying to mash a round peg into a square hole.
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true warriors fight through the pain and unfairness of life, knowing excuses will only sour their mind.
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Sure, Warrior can be good in PvP. Now give other classes Mortal Strike.
Rogues have stealth. CC and resets. Can drink in stealth. It’s not a comparison but you but you don’t understand game design.
Warriors should be Solo players. Relentless and feared. This is just Class fantasy and better design. Warrior design wasn’t decent till ICC in Wrath but in SOD we can fix it right away. Which means a new powerful spell reflect, spammable Victory Rush, MoP Second wind for sustain to keep them in battle.
This isn’t about good or bad players it’s about good or bad design.
Then of course I’m really waiting for Glad stance from WoD. Sword and Board Dps is where it’s at.
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Exactly, it’s about good design. What SOD is supposed to be doing is fixing the gaps in each class/specs utility&dmg kits. The only one that hasn’t been tuned for either is warrior. I would take less damage for more utility to actually fight an opponent. SOD is making every class self reliant except warrior where everyone things the argument should remain as ‘warriors are supposed to suck if they don’t have 2-3 people helping them’
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