Warrior is way overtuned HELLO?

Because most Warrios players have the Shadowland syndrome, they even think Warriors were balanced back then.

you retract this statement yet? lol or still havent played. I do appreciate execute actually doing ok damage and MS doing decent damage outside of CDs, but our burst still is not there after the nerfs.

they are going to be heavily disappointed. unless they want to pve as fury or train targets at sub 2k rating

you have to leave arms out of these “cracked” claims. it is far from it. anyone who says otherwise hasnt played post changes yet. its literally the same, no burst, u have to have 100% uptime to do your sustained pve rotation to do any meaningful damage still.

Where’s the Assassination reworks/BUFF’s???

My class has been nonexistent this season…

arms is finally playable and all the 1300 rats who don’t have their toolkit bound start coming out
wild to see mages complaining too
absolutely absurd

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I played at least two hours of arms shuffles yesterday.

and its cracked? at what rating? your arms is 1600 in rss and 3s… cracked for sure

You’re right. I haven’t played that much arms this ssn. However I did only claim to have played two hours of it. I think I might have queued 30 minutes of it before yesterday this season.

It felt about as good as fury from my purview. Maybe that will change if I play warrior more. It’s okay that you don’t feel the same way.

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im just saying, calling arms cracked, when its not, after you played 2 hr at 1600 rating, is not justifiable… imo

I played 6 hr yesterday and 6 hr today, Arms barely feels any different, the burst cd nerfs wipe out the good buffs except execute.

I didn’t play two hours at 1600 rating. I started somewhere between 800 and 1100 and played that many lobbies. New player mmr is 1700. My mmr was like 1900 or something. Not that that is phenomenal but also that’s just an alt that I like to mess around with and that’s what your first handful of lobbies look like. I just kept having the same thought that people way more familiar with this are having a field day.

These type of posts are why no one takes the community seriously when there’s actually a problem. Sending 10.0.7 ret to live was a -huge- blunder. This is nothing. Arms is maybe A tier. Maybe.

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My original statement was that fury, unholy, arms, ret, and ww feel pretty well balanced against each other. You might disagree with it but I don’t think it’s an outlandish opinion. Damage in general feels high. Them all being balanced against each other and working at a high level makes them feel cracked to me. We’ve made it to the point in the cycle where cracked damage is like requirement number A in whether a spec is meta or not.

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Well I just played a shuffle game with DK, Arms, WW and me on MM. It was literally who could just nuke the other team in the opener. Every round took maximum 10 seconds. It was 1900 healers in a 2200 lobby, but still. Wild.

*Also it was on Blades Edge so a nightmare lobby for me.

3 of the highest burst/dmg classes and a mortal strike.

Does anyone have Healing Debuffs as strong/consistent as Warriors?

Arms in it’s own right still has sharpen, and beyond that I don’t think any other spec can put MS effects in an aoe

Fury obviously has the highest “non cd” healing debuff.


Obviously not calling it op but there’s nuance to Warrior MS effects. Rogue and DH can put it out in an AoE but it gaps or has to stack.

Sp’s can be killed, Hunter’s can have their effect attached to pets.

The only contender that comes to mind is Demo, where the felguard ironically emulates an Arms warrior.


Just a pointless shower thought, but I hope wars, specially arms, out there arent actually trying to pass off as some low impact/low utility spec.

Talmbout being so kitable with 2 stuns (resourcesless, one ranged, both undodgable) , 2 cc immunities, up to 2 charge spell reflect, 2 charges, leap, intervene, war banner

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Is calling it trash after 100 games of <1800 justifiable?

You bout to be labeled a warrior hater.

Funny enough all of that is just to try and stick on mage/lock but it wrecks everything that doesn’t have mage/lock elusiveness.

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Who called arms trash at 100 games under 1800? I don’t keep tabs on them

ur such a weiner posting this when u make arms warriors quit arena as u kite them

Yea but the ones I can’t kite absolutely just keep me locked up

And when I’m not cc’d, I’m doing busy work killing banner, trying to knock off reflect (especially during my static field gcd), making sure I don’t lasso while bolt is mid air, earthgrab can be spun out of x2 or Avatar’d, have something to break out of howl

Like it’s not just “hurp derp kiting here”