The answer is none, nobody ever holds an undisputed top spot since it’s at the whim of blizzard’s balancing choices.
The real answer is any you enjoy, you can play any spec at a high enough level and compete to it’s ceiling. Which easily allows you to reach the top %ile of M+ with an organised team of like minded players who don’t care about the meta (they are out there) alongside also doing well enough to hold your spot in Mythic raiding Cutting Edge each tier with weeks of farm left.
Personally I’ve stuck with Warrior since out of Arms or Fury both of which I find fun enough to play (Preference to Arms moreso) and I’ve always made it work in a raid setting and held my own in keys, never did bother pushing for titles in M+ and raid now at a much reduced schedule than I did previously MoP to Legion (4 night raiding during this peroid), since BFA more casual 3 nights a week but still CE every tier within a respectable time.
Ultimately, this game is supposed to be fun, so there is no reason to play a class that is S tier this patch cycle if I don’t enjoy the gameplay.
One caveat to your position. Often times a class that I find fun, like Elemental Shaman, can be so far behind other classes, that it feels like I am playing an alternate version of the game and ultimately having a miserable experience.
I think the Hybrid classes often have those huge swings where one spec can either be insanely powerful or far behind.
Hot diggity-dog imma go jump back over to Colossus! I literally leveled as it from day 1 and only went Fury because I wanted to try Slayer and ended up liking it just as much. Heard that it was meta so thought meh and stayed.
This is the most I’ve enjoyed Arms and Fury both equally since wotlk with Armor Penetration (God those were good times).
Yeah but that’s also part of why I’m complaining so much. I’ve played Warrior since Vanilla and making my class (except prot which is actually good right now) trash makes it less fun. They nerf Rally, they nerf our extra range, they nerf our AoE, they nerf our damage across the board, and now they’re nerfing our AoE AGAIN, it sucks the fun out of the game because it’s clear they just hate Warrior DPS. And the proof of that is in the patch notes where they don’t even know the names of our abilities, they called Warbreaker Warbringer when they’re randomly nerfing that ability alongside Fury.
It wild to me that Critcake, a player who is used as a resource for other warriors, and quite frankly, is better than any warrior on these forums, has said warrior is in for hard times. Yet, people say its doing fine. Fact is ret will dumpster fury and provide actual meaningful utility. Part of the reason warrior does so poorly is every time complaints are made, yes men say warrior is fine and cite their experiences. Fury needs to have its mastery scaling adjusted to make up for the nerfs and increases its sustain. End of story.
Or they you know, play the class and do more than fine against ‘meta’ specs even outdoing them at the same gear levels in keys.
There’s no doubting fury’s in the pits for ST damage in raid but for those fights you’ve always got Arms, Warriors who have wanted to do the best in raid have always needed to multispec Arms/Fury but have always been able to do just fine playing one spec over the other and still getting the content done in a reasonable time manner with months to spare on farm.
There’s no question that Fury definitely needs a consistent damage nerf to help them out with their burst being nerfed since that’s kinda what has carried their ST on the cleave heavy fights, there is a build that skips half those ‘nerfs’.
In general they’re still able to do all the content anyway so even if those consistent buffs don’t come anytime soon you’ll still be able to push as far as you want with like minded people, you know friends? Forbid being social in a MMO and adding people you mesh well with in keys.
Or I could not have to choose between dragging my friends down and needing them to compensate against my class vs not having fun in my class and role because I decided to stop griefing my team and respect their time
My friends are just as satisfied with playing an FPS or MOBA or strategy game…but WoW was almost something we could add to the mix as mutually enjoyable
Faster, yes. Can I smack things for 3 mil in one hit, hell no. Not on Fury at least. If done properly, Colossal Arms can get those massive beefy hits. It’s just not AS practical in keys.
The one thing I didn’t hate about Colossal Arms, is the cool downs seem to line up more often than Slayer.
I think you’re missing the point. We all know Fury has great burst, (for now, as we know what happens in Nov.), but with no buffs and just testing on the 5 target cleave dummies in the city I was easily sustained 1.78 mil. No lull in rotation or power.
Fury is great when blowing all the cool downs, but spaghetti arms without them. This was doing sustain. I’m not saying it’s better, and I agree in PVP it would be straight @rse.
It’s strange, I don’t understand where they plan on putting warriors in the end of things. Thankfully, the change on the PTR is on the PTR. There is time for them to change things.
Yeah, not rly satisfying nor engaging fighting dummies to get those numbers
Like i said tot he other poster, i didn’t try to raid or mythic with arms yet, and i will prob never will, cause it doesn’t feel good to play atm, even more with skullsplinter being almost necessary
Thats why i said arms is lame now, at least to me, its not a satisfying gameplay like it used to be, i despise the bleed and the need to spec into then, i don’t like mortals trike being pilled with multiple buffs to do something
Fury is just way straightfoward, its bonk and bonk
Lol… those 4 specs you listed just so happen to be the most played.
Warcract logs has fury warrior listed as 4th most parsed at 99 percentile in the past week there has been 236,087 parses
Sub rogue is at 9,820.
Warcraftlogs also has sub rogue +1 above fury warrior in DPS.
In fact… all 3 rogue specs are above fury warrior.
Assassin rogue is currenly 2nd best melee dps in M+. Ive seen assassin rogues in action above 2500+ M score. They absolutely obliterate warriors in total dps.
Warriors are awesome every 1 minute and 30 seconds. Our basic AoE being whirlwind+4 single hits over and over is weak. It would be great if these burst nerfs were to buff the damage from whirlwind buff. I’m not on wow right now but i believe the buff does 55% of your single target hits to other nearby enemies.
The basic aoe from fuey is significantly weaker than the basic aoe that assassin rogue, frost dk, ret & enhance dish out.
1.5 minutes burst is now outnumbered by literally every aoe dpser out there. Players now have high enough ilvl to spit on Fury’s CDs.
And why are you trying to reason with someone who tells you Fury is strong because of the number of players playing it. Thats just sad… “You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.”