Warmode on: Open world challenge

PVP War Mode and World PvP
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10/27/2018 04:47 PMPosted by Diago
Wargame would be a better solution, would rather it be a fair fight then for example, both 40 man raids meet up in Halaa and begin the war, then a multiboxer drops in an all hell breaks loose. Now thats less then likely to actually happen but you never knooow.

Instanced pvp you wouldnt have that happen.

This too, especially when /follow command is disabled in instanced PvP. Multiboxers have a hard time coordinating properly when /follow is disabled haha.

Edit: Also, BG maps are built to support 40v40 fights as well, meaning less lag, equal teams, etc. where as WPvP areas aren't built to support 40v40 fights.
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No sorry wargames are not the answer. Like I said once or twice fine, but not an every day solution.
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10/27/2018 04:04 PMPosted by Kyosai
Wait...That's a nice title - Did you get it in a 5-man? ;P

You can't get Horde Slayer in a raid group.
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10/27/2018 01:48 PMPosted by Swghoulz
If you need more than 5 ppl to kill a mob with less than 2mill hp...

You are the definition of AWFUL

On Alliance, we often need more than 5 people to kill off the 20 Horde at the world quest location, though - or at least the folks on normal shards do.

At least, we did as of a few weeks ago. Now it seems a 5 man suffices. Maybe Anduin Knights is succeeding in driving some Horde out of war mode and evening up the odds a little bit. Or maybe the Horde are just getting fat and sloppy from not getting any PVP practice.

Maybe eventually Anduin Knights can reverse the war mode imbalance, and then you'll get to have for yourself the experience of having to have more than 5 people even to get to the point where you can tap the world quest boss, let alone kill it.
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10/27/2018 05:22 PMPosted by Yarrow
At least, we did as of a few weeks ago. Now it seems a 5 man suffices. Maybe Anduin Knights is succeeding in driving some Horde out of war mode and evening up the odds a little bit. Or maybe the Horde are just getting fat and sloppy from not getting any PVP practice.

Maybe eventually Anduin Knights can reverse the war mode imbalance, and then you'll get to have for yourself the experience of having to have more than 5 people even to get to the point where you can tap the world quest boss, let alone kill it.


I honestly think you're giving yourselves too much credit.

Im sure it has more to do with declining subs, ppl already maxed out their reps (and only doing WQs for emissaries mostly now).

I was sorta wrong about being able to do WQs in a raid, since its only blue/elite wqs that are doable as such. But it doesn't change the fact, that if those 1.7mill mob WQs were only completeable in 5 mans, that huge raid groups of ppl sitting there waiting for the mob to spawn wouldnt exist. (outside of the coincidence that several 5 man group finder groups all appear on the same shard.)
As I said before -
these groups will complete the objective, some leave, others join, complete, repeat. Some of these groups go on for a long while, distorting shard populations, making the AI and ppl think "there's a raid group here camping" when its really a byproduct of LFG and WQ's being doable in raids.
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You can't get Horde Slayer in a raid group.


Sorry, try again. You can get it in a coalition of 5 man groups churning solo/group players, but that's not my point either.

It shouldn't be remotely difficult for 5 man death squads to get 10 kills with a bounty active while keeping their quester alive. For the achievement to be anything greater than appeasement for the egos of the weak, it shouldn't be attainable in a group at all. If Fwoom can contest that they got their kills without any conditions that could be considered unfair or a carry, I'd be all ears.
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ITT Goalposts being moved-- Wargame them

Goodman's Hunger Strike until it happens

Go Dodgers!!!!!
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10/27/2018 06:52 PMPosted by Goodman
Go Dodgers!!!!!


Bro, Boston all the way!!!!!
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♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥

Hey do you guys want to join up in for a WARGAME? Even numbers and no interference from other players in the area or calling in people from LFG.

♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥
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10/29/2018 09:25 AMPosted by Hollyforest
Hey do you guys want to join up in for a WARGAME? Even numbers and no interference from other players in the area or calling in people from LFG.


They dont wanna
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10/29/2018 09:27 AMPosted by Aoeu
They dont wanna

Their individual skill is bad, so they probably don't want to wargame in small numbers. The other thread got deleted I believe, but man oh man, that was hilarious.

When they have a guild representative, (Spaventoso) who literally backpedals and trinkets nothing, that's when you know the majority of their guild must be around the same skill level as that guy haha.
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10/27/2018 05:53 PMPosted by Kyosai
You can't get Horde Slayer in a raid group.


Sorry, try again. You can get it in a coalition of 5 man groups churning solo/group players, but that's not my point either.

It shouldn't be remotely difficult for 5 man death squads to get 10 kills with a bounty active while keeping their quester alive. For the achievement to be anything greater than appeasement for the egos of the weak, it shouldn't be attainable in a group at all. If Fwoom can contest that they got their kills without any conditions that could be considered unfair or a carry, I'd be all ears.


10/27/2018 05:53 PMPosted by Kyosai
You can't get Horde Slayer in a raid group.


Sorry, try again. You can get it in a coalition of 5 man groups churning solo/group players, but that's not my point either.

It shouldn't be remotely difficult for 5 man death squads to get 10 kills with a bounty active while keeping their quester alive. For the achievement to be anything greater than appeasement for the egos of the weak, it shouldn't be attainable in a group at all. If Fwoom can contest that they got their kills without any conditions that could be considered unfair or a carry, I'd be all ears.


100% agree, or at least give us one that we can get solo. Though even then, people will just group around the guy to help him get it.

I got mine on both toons, by myself, outnunbered the most the time. I know that, and that's all that matters :). That's the best we can do.

Either way, it's easy I would have gotten it 20x over per toon.

We need another with much much more kills. I usually get swarmed after 15-20 kills as assassin. 10 doesn't take long enough for people to come for you in large quantities.

I wear the title, because for 1, I dont have Conqueroryet (not of Azeroth, the old one) but soon!

And to let allys know in WM, that I will not just walk by them like others do. A for warning if you will.

It Carry's no prestidge at all imo. Conqueror, High Warlord, Warlord, Bloodthirsty, those are titles I respect, and reconginize, and unless they make something like 50 kills without dying with Bounty, I will never respect that kind of chieve.

50, and not in a raid (a party is fine for 50 imo) that's a feat. Most I have went is 23, and at that point there was so much red I though I was a bull. There was a full raid group on top of me lol.

In that ones defense, I was with a group of 2 other friends, and all 3 of us had bounties. (Ret Pally, Arms Warrior, and My Havoc) a raid will come when 3 bounties are clumped on an ally city (Brendanan or whatever don't think I'm spelling that right lul). For 30 mins, we ran the city for over an hour, killing the guards and every player trying to defend.

I like that city :) it's a great camping ground. People think the FM will save them, nope I kill the stupid griffons and and you :).

Protip, Mobs being around, even guards/FM, helps Demon Hunters and Locks, silly Ally's :p. So next time you die to ID, or see a unstoppable healing like crazzy DH, stop running to a city....
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Is it just me or does anyone else find it weird that there are posts and people saying WM is empty of alliance and now that someone is trying to actively participate and promote, they just get bashed?

I mean yeah have some back and forth but seriously some of you are being pretty disgusting about pvp in a video game.
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10/29/2018 11:10 AMPosted by Darelin
Is it just me or does anyone else find it weird that there are posts and people saying WM is empty of alliance and now that someone is trying to actively participate and promote, they just get bashed?

I mean yeah have some back and forth but seriously some of you are being pretty disgusting about pvp in a video game.


Please, can you tell me which Letter in WAR you don't understand?

You know, "World of WARcraft" we are at WAR.

"The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." - Sun Tzu.

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." - Sun Tzu.

And my personal favorite, and most applicable.

"When strong, avoid them. If of high morale, depress them. Seem humble to fill them with conceit. If at ease, exhaust them. If united, separate them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise." - Sun Tzu.

The sooner you realize that WM, means just that WAR, it's not PvP, it's not fair, it's not balanced it's not on anyone's terms. It's unexpected, it's dirty, its chaos.

Take Karate Kid Mentality to the Arena, this is a Street Fight.

And while I may bash OP, and hate on them. Maybe even make comments for zerging, I don't honestly judge them for that. Nor blame them one bit. Good on them, zerging is a valid tactic in my eyes. It gets battles won. I'm still going to bash them though, and hate on them every post they make. Because that too is a valid tactic.

That said the fact allies won't Toggle WM, and send PSAs saying don't go to C2A areas, yep, it's clear the Horde is winning the war.
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Imagine being afraid to wargame Emerald Dream guilds because you get worked every single time there is an equal number fight. LOL!
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10/29/2018 09:25 AMPosted by Hollyforest
♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥

Hey do you guys want to join up in for a WARGAME? Even numbers and no interference from other players in the area or calling in people from LFG.

♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥
♥ WARGAME ♥


@Holly and others.

We are more than jubilant to do a 40v40 with you in a PvP Instance in AV or Isles. But it requires to be in a mundane queue there wont be any lag, the numbers will be fair 40v40.

Just let us know the days/times of your AV premades and we will see you there. Wargame does not benefit us we do not get any HKS. Don't worry we are good at keeping our word if I am saying we will that means our raid will show up you can check twitter history of how many times we told you we are coming and we did.

It is odd that D7 does not want to fight us in a normal queue even though D7 already runs AV premades against random pugs why not against us the same way using a normal queue or accepting to a 40v40 open world that would be interesting.

Feels like dodging to me, I gave reasonable options.
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Its been 2 days not a single horde guild, community or an individual LFG leader has shown interest to the open world challenge.

I am starting to get concerned now.
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10/29/2018 03:24 PMPosted by Cryptids
We are more than jubilant to do a 40v40 with you in a PvP Instance in AV or Isles. But it requires to be in a mundane queue there wont be any lag, the numbers will be fair 40v40.

This has to be the stupidest suggestion. You want them to jump in a AV queue instead of just war gaming? Dude, stop trying to dodge the request. There's no guarantee you'll all be queued into each other if it's through random. Get a raid group, and war game.

10/29/2018 03:24 PMPosted by Cryptids
Just let us know the days/times of your AV premades and we will see you there. Wargame does not benefit us we do not get any HKS.

Who cares if you don't get any HKS. Stop being scared. They want to war game you, not queue through randoms in the hopes of being pit against each other.
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10/29/2018 03:32 PMPosted by Cryptids
Its been 2 days not a single horde guild, community or an individual LFG leader has shown interest to the open world challenge.

I am starting to get concerned now.

We get it, you want to queue into randoms in hopes you'll receive people who can carry you, because no one in your guild is competent or skilled enough to actually war game and rely on their own skills.
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Don't worry we are pretty good at going in against premades in epic battlegrounds this is all we did in the past if you did not know.

10/29/2018 03:33 PMPosted by Alphon
10/29/2018 03:24 PMPosted by Cryptids
We are more than jubilant to do a 40v40 with you in a PvP Instance in AV or Isles. But it requires to be in a mundane queue there wont be any lag, the numbers will be fair 40v40.

This has to be the stupidest suggestion. You want them to jump in a AV queue instead of just war gaming? Dude, stop trying to dodge the request. There's no guarantee you'll all be queued into each other if it's through random. Get a raid group, and war game.

10/29/2018 03:24 PMPosted by Cryptids
Just let us know the days/times of your AV premades and we will see you there. Wargame does not benefit us we do not get any HKS.

Who cares if you don't get any HKS. Stop being scared. They want to war game you, not queue through randoms in the hopes of being pit against each other.