Trying to do the Slayers Rise quest, kill 10 players and loot their corpse.
So I am over on alliance OCE where we basically outnumber horde 10:1, so finding another horde player is hard, trying to find a horde player on their own so I can kill them is equally as hard, most of them run around with a pocket healer and you just can’t 1v2 when there is a healer present.
See a chest spawn, go diving in hoping to see someone fight back, 25 alliance show up, zero horde. See a flag turn red, fly in only for the sole horde player to fly out. Get the event started, look around to see what needs to be done only to realise it is already over because there are FAR too many players on one faction who ended it within a minute.
So I come back later, nothing has changed, days later, nothing. One day out of 10 I might show up to see I am now sharded with a horde heavy server, same issue, but reversed. I try to find some horde to kill, only to find 25 of them all huddling together. Go fly to a horde flag, 6 horde waiting. See a horde bounty, realise it’s actually 8 horde bounties and when I fly in I realise they are just camping the GY.
I come back later and see alliance in control and hordes (huh huh) of alliance players camping around in groups, and yep, I see them all camped at the GY, just standing there, waiting.
Give a buff, a substantial buff, enough to actually fight back and make it worth fighting back to the faction who has less people.
So many people think they like wpvp when in reality they like being on the faction that is dominating. That is exactly what wpvp is and always has been.
thank you! everyone always talks about how being the outnumbered underdog in pvp sucks, and it really does, but it also creates these feedback loops where even the other side can’t really do any pvp either.
I’m not sure if the solution is a wintergrasp-style buff for being outnumbered but it would be nice if blizz could figure something out for it
Can you really call it PVP in it’s current state anyway?
Look at this: https://imgur.com/a/XghBifU
That’s where the plane cache as about to drop, before it even got close to the ground on two different occassions.
And it’s just me trying to get some kills and contest the objectives.
I just want some kills so I can get this quest done and to occasionally have some semblance of a fair fight when I do go to PVP.
But it’s always the same, multiple of the opposite faction, with healers, or players who will use any trick in the book to escape and never actually engage in PVP.
This is the part that really annoys me about the WoW PVP players, that they are OK with just standing around waiting for that one unsuspecting person to show up and get wrecked.
I join WM to actually PVP, to fight people, but the garbage these players pull just makes me turn it off and do something else.
Yep. That is how it’s always been. People who rave about wpvp fail to admit it, so then people who don’t know any better try it out and realize it’s not at all fun. If you want engaging pvp, do bfs and arenas, otherwise you’re just going to deal with people ganging up on solo/lowbies.
They tried, that’s basically what Slayers Rise is, a far worse, much more exploitable version of WG.
The issue though with an outdoor PVP area like these are that there are outdoor specific rewards. WG, Assran, SR, you can’t do PVP and earn those rewards without having to deal with the issues of getting ganked, or finding out there is no one to even kill because they all left.
They really need to make changes to WM, firstly make those who are under-represented stronger and increase rewards only for actually doing PVP, far too many who show up for 10% bonus and never intend to PVP unless it is a faceroll. This might entice more people to actually PVP, but if they increase PVP only rewards and remove the 10%, it would for sure remove all those who don’t want to actually PVP.
Second they need to increase the timer for both CC immunity, that is make it so it takes longer to become immune and at the same time increase the timer of leaving combat from PVP.
And on top of this, stop peoples LFG queues while they are in combat and stop them from queuing while in combat. Any decent enough player in a 1v1 can escape, it’s far too easy, like the dude I found earlier in the FFA area. I started attacking him and he was like “Ew a tank”, so I said “Ew a ‘PVP’ player” and told him to stop complaining about PVP happening in warmode, he abused me and used the follower dungeon to leave combat.
You said you want more people in Warmode, but you want to cut the actual incentive to turn it on? Take away the incentives, the already-low participation is going to dry up further, as will all of your further inconveniences suggested.
Make an incentive for people to actually PVP, because it’s not only just about the numbers, it’s about balance and fairness. I don’t remember ever saying I want more people doing it, that in it’s current state would just make matters worse, what they need to do is make it so people want to PVP and not just show up for extra PVE rewards.
If you want an activity where everyone is there for the sole purpose of PvP: Queue for a battleground. World PvP has always been populated with whoever happens to be there, whether or not they were looking for a fight.