Warlocks that just hellfire spam in dungeons

Actually your statement is wrong. All these spells have talents to boost their output by 20%. Once you get about 14 talent points you are always in the positive by life tapping and health stone or drain life to full.

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Its always epic to me, when a healer warns the tank he running low on mana. Then the warlock starts spamming hellfire on queue, lol.

Classic at its best.

I would shield the lock and toss a hot on him and that’s it as a Priest, if he let’s himself die just /lol and kick.

Tbh, you shouldn’t even have to shield. PW:S takes up so much mana and a simple HoT like renew should be fine. A good Warlock knows how to dance on the edge of a knife between health and mana.

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As a squishy mage dps, I’ve learned not to aggro. EVER.

I’ve also learned to not expect heals. Pots work.

Now I rarely die. If I do aggro, lead the mob to the tank and cc it there. Works great.

This is silly. Asking a warlock not to use an extremely powerful spell just because it costs hp is silly. The spell does 80 damage per tick per mob every second at rank one. I ran guild premades and this was literally a non issue with my healer.

Sure I could rain of fire but it is much less damage over all. If the healer is prepared for hellfire then it is actually the most optimal choice for the group.

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You can tell who the veteran warlock mains are ITT. It is much more efficient for the lock to spend his mana/hp and a small amount of the healer’s mana to kill the mobs quickly in aoe than to single target and spare the healer the need to drink. Healing the warlock a few times should not OOM the healer and force him to drink every pull. On the other hand, if a healer never bothers to heal a lifetapping or hellfiring warlock, then the warlock will need to eat and drink every pull.

If you’re a healer and find yourself constantly running OOM, ask yourself if you ever bother downranking spells and being efficient with your heals. Many healers don’t seem to know about downranking and how important it is for keeping your mana high. If you find yourself OOM every pull, it’s probably because you spam flash heal.

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Agree. My group was actually asking me to tap so I could hellfire more. We were making good time without any mages.

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Hellfire is the highest dps aoe. It blows RoF, Blizz, and AE out of the park. The health loss isn’t even significant and the warlock should be able to handle that with a Healthstone and DL. What you do have to watch out for, though, is the enormous amount of threat it generates from all that deeps.

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As a healer I am very happy to hear through hellfire. It destroys packs.

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Play a paladin. Give them a condescending blessing of salvation.

Completely correct, especially when I’m healing. Healing priority table usually goes: tank/healer, dps without heals, dps with self-heals. You know where locks are in that table.

Once the warlock gets rank 2 rain of fire - it actually has higher DPS than hellfire… until hellfire rank 2. Also, locks are supposed to know when to heal up and stop using life tap / hellfire. If he ends up pulling aggro… well ya live, ya die, ya learn.

This is the correct answer. Problem is a lot of healers in Classic didn’t heal in Vanilla, so advanced healing techniques aren’t widely understood yet except those of us that also healed in Vanilla. These healers are def hamstringing the group though.

Healer’s QQing about healing… always a favorite topic.

The fact is Warlocks have a ton of tools in their arsenal to keep themselves alive. Sac Voidwalker, healthstone, healing potions, drain life, first aid (hopefully) etc. If they don’t know when to time hellfire and pull a bunch of aggro, that is one thing - let them die. But if they time it for mage freezes/slows, tank mob aggro, etc, it is one of the most significant forms of DPS and will speed up your run drastically.

That being said, I never expect heals when using hellfire, but appreciate a renew now and again.

As a healer if my lock isnt using hellfire idk wtf hes doing in my group.

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Thankfully I’m always duo with a healer so I don’t have to deal with healers like you.

What Imirak said. Just let him die. It’s your job to keep the tank alive, and maybe heal the DPS from time to time when ā€œs#$! happensā€. It’s not your job to run oom, and wipe the party because some a-hole refuses to understand how things work in Classic.

Well if he is not void sacking then doing Hellfire so you do not have to heal, its a bad lock, and needs to be kicked

all these locks trying to avoid sap

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