Warlock is unplayable in arena

Title says it all, any spec you play is just a terrible joke by blizzard.
Currently playing affliction but i honestly dont see how this was even released. you can not survive, the dots do horrible damage. our damage all comes from malefic rapture but without dots that isnt possible. There is no way for us to do any real pressure (in arena) due to defense cooldowns ignoring our dots and then taking too long to ramp up and ultimately we die in a stun.
ive played less destro but the games i played were short due being 100-0 in 3 seconds while trying to play strategically and fake cast. the alternative is to get myself in a position to kill and then eat a spell reflect or use unending resolve and get stunned anyways. The spec is too basic and everyone knows how to counter us because nothing was improved.
There is just too much to list and i dont have the energy anymore. i have been playing this game for almost 14 years and have never wanted to quit this badly. i have seen alot of xpacs get released then major problems dont get addressed until never but we somehow get nerfed. lets see what happens this time…

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Blizz just has a way of screwing game design logic over and over again until nothing resembling any sort of logic and balance remains.

Specifically, concerning everything in this game that is instant(cast) vs hardcast.

They totally lost control over this… they went and made instant-everything stronger and stronger over time, while never adjusting hardcasts in the same way.

Even worse, warlock is the only class that suffers the most from this discrepancy, they even went as far as overnerf our only instant responses to also have a freaking hardcasttime.

Why… WHY is Shadowfury STILL hardcast? It used to have a 20s CD and was instant (or 0.5s as far back as TBC)… now? 1min CD (!!!), 1.5s casttime. WTF. And to top it off, it’s still a magical stun effect.

Just compare it to the swath of instant melee stuns that last even longer.

Our covenant abilities are the same. Everything is the same. Most of our hardcast abilities hit for less than almost every single classes instants. It’s beyond wrong at this point.

Incinerate is quite a long cast, and hits for 800-1000 noncrit. Freaking AUTO SHOT from a Hunter hits for more than this. AUUUTOOOO SHOT!

It just makes no sense anymore.

Compared to everyone else, we only evolved back in time. And we still only get clunky leftovers instead of the more important things they ruined…

Corruption with a hardcasttime for demo and destro. And it doesn’t even do any damage… good joke. Thanks for the unpruning…

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It’s a little hard right now in arenas unless you’re an MM hunter or rogue. Give it some time, work on some gear, stack vers for survivability and go in with a holy paladin (BoK).

We might not shine during the first few months but let’s see what happens when these legendaries come out and we can Raid.

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Probably should work on some pvp gear before going into arena. JS.

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Uh chanimal, the c9 warlock player is leveling boomkin for arena. Think that one over. No amount of gear is gonna make warlocks viable. They are literally trash tier. Don’t tell yourself otherwise

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Yeah Hi,

Chan pushes R1 with S-tier specs/etc
Chan doesn’t want to play Destro bc hes burnt out from BFA but he can’t play AFF for r1 bc its squishy vs melee and the Squish so hes playing boomkin till fixes are made. He is pretty upfront about all of this.

Destros prolly A tier-ish… maybe high B… but its not S tier and multi R1 tournament players are notorious for chasing the tiers because its how they make money… content…etc.
Aff will be weaker into the overall meta bc melee but stronger into caster teams.
Demo is sadly unplayable bc pet issues.

I played a buncha scrims as Destro MLX and Splay… other then some hilarious MM or Sub related 1 shots that will be fixed… it was fine… not having the haste is annoying but its not horrible.

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i can only speak for aff warlock spec itself.

Just role SP for Aff lock.

Malefic Rupture just ruins the Warlock original design.
Warlock AFF has been squishy since the loss of Soul Link.
Ramp up takes too much time
Melee will two-shot you basically.

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There is some sort of disconnect with the way dots work and MA, and I can feel it.

Its very obvious when I am about to go into the PvE style damage rotation for pressure. If I have 3-4 dots on any given target I have indicated to the other team that the moment I stop moving I am prepared to dump MRs. If I am delayed, or slowed in a MR dump, unlike the other DPS specs in the game, my dots fall off and thus, so does my damage.

So, if my window to do damage in a short amount of time is about 15 seconds, and is telegraphed, how do we balance out my ability to create pressure to the opposing teams ability to easily spot and counter me?

Not sure, just thinking out loud. Lots of negative warlock posts, just want to respond with my thoughts.

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Melee vs/ ranged has never been more unbalanced to start an expansion. Its a joke right now.

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i always carry 2 sets of gear one for pvp and one for pve. just because it wasnt equipped when i logged out doesnt mean i dont use it :stuck_out_tongue:

http://49.media.tumblr.com/6868d67722f6ec5a071845b562e5cb38/tumblr_o18rkrn3XO1rp84c6o1_400.gif

Rogues be like “lol this lock”

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Dude I’ve been giving them time since WoD. The only time this class felt satisfying to play was when it was loaded with a ridiculous amount of haste that made you feel as if you had double bloodlust at all times.

The whole “give it time, just wait” is kinda tiring to hear after multiple expansions go by and nothing new gets added to the class. Meanwhile I sit back and watch everyone else get overhauls and all their fav stuff back. Just to read “destruction warlocks are fine, and won’t be given anything” in the patchnotes. Gee thanks for corruption guys.

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Another great example of hardcasts vs instants:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK51ZQlhQW4&feature=emb_title

Kek. Just kek.

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Demon Armor could go to 250% for affliction.
Rapid Contagion could go 50%.

This would make it much more competitive.

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But… but…

Remember that one time a warlock got you good by hiding behind a pillar?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Warlock is the one class that suffers the most from pillars… except for maybe affliction.

Another aspect which makes it punishing if you don’t have instants. People that do just pillarhug all game while chipping away at your heatlh, as long as your teammates don’t set anything up for you.

Dalaran arena is the worst…

Oh and if it isn’t them doing the pillar humps, your own fear and coil will make sure to deny you many victories to come.

Gotta love RNG CCs.

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Yep. Was just poking fun at the win scenarios. You just win as a warlock by not engaging or hiding behind a dozen better specs.

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Mained afflock in legion, was a god in BGs but arenas were difficult because of ramp up time. I made a choice to switch to this rogue, it’s nice having instant burst.

thats how i feel playing my ret paladin against a lock

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while i do agree that there is much more they can do to up the potential of affliction warlock the spec itself isn’t playable

it’s definitely a playable spec you just have to play the right comp and not play with pisslow players

if they really want to fix the spec they need to look at the gcd issues and bring back talents like soulswap

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