Warden Towers

[Moonweaver-hakkar (Moonweaver)]

@Amadis-draka

You know, this gets brought up a lot here, doesn’t it? And no, I don’t agree with the tired response of “Odyn would have been angry.” Odyn’s a weird dude, and probably would have been helping punch the Legion once we got him free just for the fun of it any way. And yes, I do agree with the point of “Genn had no idea why Sylvanas was there.” That is definitely true, and at the beginning of Stormheim even I was angry at Genn for getting the Skyfire blown up in blind rage upon seeing the Forsaken.

We at least know that the Valarjar are not happy with Sylvanas :

[Amadis-draka (Amadis)]

@Hackbrew-wyrmrest-accord

You need to have a high IQ to really “get” Sylvanas. A lot of her logic flies over the head of those with lesser minds. She’s a very deep and philosophical character. Far more complicated than your Anduin

I mean, that is the sub-plot of BfA, isn’t it?

@Moonweaver-hakkar

We at least know that the Valarjar are not happy with Sylvanas :

https://imgur.com/JqsL104

Woah, sweet. Didn’t know about that.

[Catori-tichondrius]

Also the Gilneans shouldn’t have the numbers to match the forsaken.

[Amadis-draka (Amadis)]

Numbers don’t mean anything to Blizzard.

[Noravalys-wyrmrest-accord]

Not really a good judge to go by, cause those are literally Eyirs handmaidens. Of course they’re upset.

[Noravalys-wyrmrest-accord]

He was, but that also involved going into the sort of underworld to get him and yank his spirit up.

[Kagehiro-thrall]

The Warden Towers are just a game element to provide some World PvP, so I wouldn’t spend too much time trying to reconcile it with the story of Stormheim or Legion.

On the subject of the Forsaken vs. the Gilneans, ignoring the Legion, etc. there really wasn’t any opportunity for the Forsaken to do so. We arrive in Stormheim, Genn attacks our fleet. We regroup on land and Sylvanas is missing. We spend the rest of the zone repelling worgen attacks while the Forsaken try to find Sylvanas, with our PC pitching in when not pursuing the Aegis of Aggramar. Then, we finally locate her and head towards Eyir’s vault. Then Genn and Sylvanas tussle while the player conveniently decides to not exist in the WoW universe until the cinematic is over.

Then it becomes the Illidan and Velen Sideshow and everyone else is forgotten about.

[Amadis-draka (Amadis)]

I agree, Kagehiro, but still, due to everything you touched on, and as Noravalys and I discussed, this is all we ever actually see Sylvanas use the Forsaken for through Legion, so I don’t really like this idea that Genn’s attacking the Forsaken meant there were less forces that would have actually been used against the Legion, or that it somehow stopped the player for getting the Aegis for Dalaran.

[Noravalys-wyrmrest-accord]

I might not have explained my point that well then, cause what I was going for is she couldn’t use them against the Legion without Genn swooping in to gank them, so by Genn attacking them and setting the precedent that he will just attack Forsaken troops, that leads to less forces being used against the Legion, because to do so would be utterly foolish since they were near enough guaranteed to be killed in fruitless ways by Genn.

[Dotzy-kargath]

We never actually see the Horde “avenge” Vol’jin but apparently it happened? Idk I missed it. Was it on Argus somewhere? Maybe hiding behind Aethas’ cupcake?