Warcraft: Sylvanas spoilers

She didn’t. She only ordered the blight to be used on Arthas, and was horrified to learn it was used on the Alliance and Horde.

I read the damn book.

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Even under that very debatable assumption she was still going to massacre anyone in her way. Men, women and children.

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Sylvanas said at the UC event that these troops were there without her knowledge, she lied about ordering the attack.

That putress betrayed her was the problem, yeah, but she know exactly that her troops were there, she even sent them there.

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Yeah, no, this new canon literally disproves your stances now, and I don’t have to continue to argue against your ignorance.

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Canon does not disprove it. Because unless this state she did not have the plague ordered to be used that very much was still on her. And at that point it is just a retcon.

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Are we talking about Gilneas or the Wrathgate right now?

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Gilneas.

/10char

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you, and me, talk about wrathgate

zerde and you i suppose talk about…gilneas

my point is pretty simple: Sylvanas was betrayed in the wrathgate event, but she still ordered an attack there, she still want to unleash her plague there, and she still was ready to let their allied troops die aswell because…its an plague…you can’t aim as precisely with a gas/liquid

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She did use the blight, but like I said, it was to end the battle quickly. To save her people, from Garrosh.

In this case, the ends justified the means. She saved her people.

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This book once again retcons stuff. No wonder no one in the community takes lore seriously why bother reading this if we gonna retcon it

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What, if anything that just makes her even more like Arthas! He did everything in his power to save his people regardless of who it hurt!

No the end does not justify the means.

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Her people were going to be slaughtered by Garrosh. It makes her nothing like Arthas. She knew the risk she was taking and she knew that Gilneas had to fall. They were an enemy (who attacked her first)

There’s other places for this debate. I don’t think here is the place. The book offers less than a page about Gilneas and the summary was “it is what it is” it’s not even a noteworthy event. It was just a cause and effect of Varimathras’ betrayal.

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Fixed for you.

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Arthas is an undisputed villian. Go cry yourself to sleep over it.

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And Sylvanas can’t be a villain for her actions?
She is literally being punished for her crimes. The only difference between her and Arthas is she was not destroyed by the Jailer and that Tyrande was will to give her a degree of mercy/the chance to actually atone.

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Sylvanas didn’t begin her Powerslide into Arthas levels of wrongness until BtS when she declared hope was a disease she needed to purge; that story thread continued into BFA and climaxed in the War of Thorns. Before that she was sometimes cruel, but there was a sensible pragmatic logic to her actions overall.

And I would like to mention Zovaal specifically presented the Shadowlands in the worst light possible, as we know the dead eventually move on from realm to realm anyways. He played her like a fiddle without her ever realizing it.

If only he showed that level of cunning in game.

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I’m not going to debate you anymore. This book confirms Arthas as an irredeemable monster in my eyes, and I’m going to accept that as fact.

Just like him poofing out as a cloud and calling him insignificant in 9.2 is about as much as he ever deserved. “Die mad about it.”

That’s the last you’ll get from me on Arthas. He’s gone in my mind. Just a fart on the wind. :dash:

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This book did nothing of the sort. Yes he was clearly cruel and creepy. But so were so many other people in Revendreth. We have someone who killed her own daughter/destroyed entire worlds.

The only difference between Sylvanas and Arthas is circumstance and chance. Had Arthas been saved sooner he would probably have been sent to Pelagos to be judged as well. And considering he isnt sending anyone to the Maw anymore probably would be sent to Revendreth.

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Marriage in a nutshell…

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He stops Sylvanas from punching Veressa. But Veressa deserves to get punched for the Purge of Dalaran ngl.

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