Nor does she want to work for them
She alluded to Bad Things after the lawsuit broke she had to deal with
And the Nobbel interview that was removed had her explaining how messy and unprofessional CDev is, having her rewrite Muehzala’s ending last minute (early 2019) for her book
To be fair no one wants to work for blizzard. And rightfully so considering the horrific culture. Have we seen actual change beside activism on vague statements.
All my takeaway from this whole thread:
Poor ugly unwanted Pugthanos. At least he got to hit it.
It certainly feels like there are some points in this book that were required by Cdev because it doesn’t match the tone of Golden’s writing. So the tone of this book is all over the place. She copy pastes her previous work. Steals verbatim in game dialogue. Retells WC3 and then runs on a tangent to her make believe fairyland of OC’s ignoring continuity or established canon, or “everyone is a mirror of Anduin”, or her reflection of herself.
Basically what Golden is known for.
Wasn’t Stormhiem after he got the new body?
I’m confused. What do eels have to do with anything?
I always found that line weird too, especially since it’s coming from Dread Rider Cullen, an actual Forsaken looking Forsaken.
Gah. Of course they’d manage to spoil things after hiring an interesting writer.
I liked SR because for once everybody felt human. As in flawed and stressed and making it up as they go along while still feeling like the characters we know.
Anduin puts on a crappy disguise and sneaks out for drinks. That’s wildly dangerous and irresponsible but certainly what a stressed out 19 year old would do. He’s still Honest Andy though so he has one beer and only flirts with the idea of flirting with the soldier girl making eyes at him.
He’s still the character we know and, have, but he actually does something pretty selfish. SW Kings have a bad habit of getting kidnapped and he’s alone at night. Though from what we see of SL he probably was safer there if you can just swoop into SW and grab him like you’re snatching a bag of chips out of a 7/11.
Still mad we didn’t get to see how that worked with Baine.
Turaylon and Alleria do genuinely awful ish. But not to be evil for a laugh. They’re stressed, scared and time is running out. It doesn’t make what they did right but isn’t cruelty for cruelty’s sake as it so often is in these stories.
And I really loved how Talanjii created her own villain by just being a crappy friend. There’s that great moment where she gets that sinking feeling. She never came back for her friend. She left her there.
It’s understandable from Talanjii’s perspective. So much was going on. But yeah leaving your best friend trapped under a pillar is pretty unforgivable. Totally got where the rebel leader was coming from.
Sigh.
Did we ever get a definite answer on if she was legitimately sent to the Maw or did the Val’kyr intercept her on her way to the Arbiter like how Arthas got intercepted by Devos and Uther?
Or did Sire Denathrius pull some underhanded action upon her being sent to Revendreth? Maybe like fast forwarding her to the Maw for the Jailer?
Maybe some other force redirected her by forgoing the Arbiter like Elune did with Ysera? Is Elune the only power with the ability to bypass the Arbiter?
There are way too many mitigating factors to the Shadowlands system to automatically assume it is broken when so many players are exerting free will on the system to change or bypass the system’s intent.
And that isn’t even accounting for the fact that other powers can (and do) invade the afterlives for their own purposes. (I am talking about the Light’s invasion of Revendreth and the Void’s invasion of Bastion.)
Apparently we get some more info on how Sylvanas sold the Forsaken (and later the BEs) joining the Horde to Thrall and Cairne. Anything new or juicy there? How’s she frame it?
I’ll get back to you on this, it was 3am when I read it I’ll need to revisit it.
All good, you’re a saint for relaying all this in the first place.
The person making the claim that no one is reunited is Agatha, one of the Mawsworn Val’kyr. That would not be one of the most reliable of sources. (Although Sylvanas likely didn’t know that at the time.)
Well it’s more a question of is this just the jailer lying to her, or is blizzard trying to explain the shadowlands to the reader through this and blizzard/golden forget about them. Also do Val’kyr lie? I assume it’s possible, but sometimes beings like that are written as being above lying/above the need to lie.
If someone’s ‘Ideal Heaven’ is eternity away from you, maybe that says less about the Arbiter and more about what the relationship was really like.
You’re ignoring that whether or not someone ends up with you has nothing to do with either of your feelings and everything to do with if you can serve the Shadowlands.
Liadrin’s father was sent to Bastion prior to the memory wipe not being required so Liadrin will never see her father again. He’s gone. It had nothing to do with him not wanting to see her and everything to do with where he ended up first.
If Draka dies before she gets to retire then Durotan will never see her again.
I starred at my screen thinking it was. Trying to decode it.
Literally? That doesn’t make any sense
Then I remembered the past two expansions. And yeah fire eels. Sure. Why not. Makes as much sense as anything else.
Which is to say none.
Well, it seems framed as them trying to sell Sylvanas on something. That Something is disproven via questing in Ardenweald. Salesmen (and Saleswomen) lie. That is where Occam’s Razor would lead me.
I have not heard anything about Val’kyr not being able to lie. i would need to review the statements made by the Val’kyr.
Heyla tries it in Hellhiem and some other power intervenes. but that was Helya trying to renege on a pact made, not simply lying.
It will make sense when you read the book.
Maybe it’s philosophical then, because I don’t care. I’ve never had the slightest problem with the Shadowlands being ‘unfair’. Unfair because you personally don’t get what you want? This thing’s bigger than both of us, baby. I believe in the literal nonexistence of fairness or perfection, so why should the ‘Afterlife’ be more perfect that the ‘Currentlife’? Shadowlands is just the Anthropic Principle at work in an adventure video game: you can go on adventures in (and even simply comprehend) the afterlife; therefore, it cannot be perfect. If it were, there would be no reason to go there/nothing to do there.