The War Within Alpha Development Notes:
This is fantastic news.
Only thing I’m concerned about is that it specifically mentions tokens. But most legacy raids outside of like TBC stuff don’t drop tokens anymore. They drop the item directly. Please tell me this applies to those as well.
For the ones that drop items directly, don’t they just drop anything regardless of the class you’re on? Which won’t matter in TWW since you’ll still collect those appearances, in line with the removal of needing to be able to equip something in order to collect the appearance for it.
Problem is they have previously specifically mentioned that class-specific stuff can’t be collected by other classes. Unless I’m mistaken.
Wrath, Cata, Mists, DF also drop tokens.
Tier is flagged differently, specifically for the class itself.
I dunno, it’s been a while since I’ve actually run any legacy instances but I feel like I remember seeing plenty of non-priest class items in my vendor spree at the end of each one. To me that sounds like fair game for having them drop and thus be collectible in TWW once collecting restrictions are lifted.
You’re talking about off-set pieces. We’re talking about tier pieces.
So am I. I mean, I can run something like Vault of Archavon or Baradin Hold (which drops basically nothing but class-specific pieces) and odds are I won’t get a single drop for the class I cleared it with. Not tokens either, direct item drops.
And those are class specific tier pieces. I’m not sure where the disconnect is. They are marked for a specific class. They are not just “cloth, leather, mail, plate.” They literally say at the bottom: “classes: druid” or “classes: priest.”
Yeah, and what’s that mean? A priest can collect a warglaive appearance in TWW, but not a mage appearance? What would the reasoning for that be? To me, they’re both items that a priest can’t equip, so it seems rather arbitrary that one would be collectible and the other wouldn’t be, especially if tokens are allowed to be transferred because their mechanics directly disallow collecting off-class appearances.
Does Blizz not know how to remove the class restriction the same way they can remove a weapon restriction or something? That’s where my confusion is coming from if that’s how it’s gonna be.
Warglaives don’t have “Class: Demon Hunter” on it. That’s the sort of thing you can’t collect with the warband system.
I’m sure they could…which is why I’m asking/hoping for clarification with this thread.
It means exactly what I said earlier:
It is not the same as just a leather, cloth or whatever piece. It has a different ID and flag in the coding.
They said “no tier.” Now they said “yes tokens.” We’re trying to figure out if it’s tokens + tier pieces or just tokens that they were able to change in the system.
I would have preferred if Catalyst system had extended to legacy raids to aid in collecting tier sets. You looted a Mage tier chest on your Priest? Catalyze it to get the Priest appearance instead.
TBC, Cata, and MoP raids drop tokens. As well as Shadowlands when it’s turned into Legacy (and Dragonflight when it becomes Legacy Loot).
Only issue is WoD and Legion raids but you should still be able to unlock that class specific appearance for that class even if you didn’t loot it on that class.