War within is the least alt-friendly WoW expansion

Given that myth track items are 13 ilvl above hero track, you can’t reasonably expect to gear an alt during a season.

Last season, I couldn’t even fully gear my main, let alone an alt. (Filled every vault with three myth track choices for mythic plus slots starting week one btw)

Myth track items should be returned to their state in DF - 6 ilvl above hero track.

This way, gearing is not entirely dependant on getting lottery-level luck and RNG in your great vault 14 weeks in a row.

Either this or give us unlimited puzzling cartel chips same as we had in dragonflight season 4.

Make it so that our character power progression isn’t solely based upon one chance at an item once a week

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How is it reasonable for your alts to have mythic raid quality gear?

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LOLOLOLOL… “It’s not alt friendly! I can’t get my alts Mythic geared!” :rofl:

:mute:

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I had near max ilvl for seven alts in DF season 2, DF season 3 and season 4.

They all had a few myth track items with rest being hero track (which was perfectly acceptable since it was only six ilvl below)

Now you have to start farming myth track vaults week one and still may not gear your main.

What if your main gets nerfed and you need to switch toons mid-season? There is no chance you can do that with myth track being 13 ilvl above hero track. It’s just not possible.

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You can still get your alts myth track gear if you put in the work.

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Least alt friendly times were during WoW’s borrowed power arc. This ain’t even close.

Sorry you can’t get max Mythic gear on your alts that do faceroll content in a few weeks.

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I just put in the work on my main this week, filed full myth track slots for mythic plus.

Did eight +10s, got no upgrades.

If I can’t even gear my main, how can it plausible to gear an alt?

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Dang kids these days don’t know how easy and good they got it

Yeah you can just do 10s which are free now

If that’s too much work then you don’t really need mythic gear and can more than get by with hero

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I can’t even get myth track gear on my main after doing eight +10s last week lmao

Yeah I did eight +10s last week, got no upgrades in vault as I stated before.

You have to win lottery levels of RNG to get a myth track piece of gear from vault that is actually an upgrade.

I got two alts, one a fresh 80, fully decked in 629s because the 11.0 Reknown rewards are Warbound so I got a bazillion crests and just had it all crafted, and then just slammed my face against Delves and BGs.

They’re both nearly 640 ilvl, which is kinda nuts?

I don’t think it’s been as easy as it currently is to get alts to end game level. Sure they’re not likely going to get decked in full Myth but…they could? If I wanted to change my focus from Guuah to another character.

Alts are fine.

people think being able to level up to max in less than a day makes it “alt friendly” which is utterly untrue. the end game is the most alt unfriendly experience there has been in wow, and this is taking into account things like attunements.

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You have to win lottery levels of RNG to get a myth track upgrade in your great vault and you only get one chance per week.

It is almost impossible to fully gear a main via the great vault and mythic plus let alone any alts.

Exactly. It is impossible to switch mains mid-season in war within

Why is it not though, alts being easy to gear is a must because typically the game fizz’s out for people if their not

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I have a hard time believing that out of the 3 maxed out delve vault pieces at 649 not a one was an upgrade for you

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Only reason you need Mythic track gear is to clear KSH easily the following season. Could probably clear KSH with hero as well but eh.

Nothing in the season itself requires Mythic other than the content Mythic gear drops from.

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Very high mythic keystones require myth track ilvl to survive (not necessarily to do the damage required.) but you do need the higher amount of stamina from 678 items in order to survive many mechanics in higher keystones.

Mythic raid doesn’t require myth track gear to clear - if echo can clear the mythic raid in mostly champion track tier, then everyone can’t

Mythic plus should drop myth track items, not the mythic raid.

This week? As in the first week of the season?

Yes I did eight +10s for my vault last week.

Go no upgrades from the vault, had to take sockets.

I’m already full hero track gear in all slots from farming mythic plus. Hero track drops are irrelevant for me.

I only need myth track pieces, anything less is a throwaway vendor item for me at this point.

DF was much more alt friendly than TWW. In DF I could play 4 or 5 characters in end game content. The same amount of effort in TWW would let me play maybe 2. TWW is great for alts if you only want to do heroic level stuff, but that’s not how a lot of people want to play alts. They want to play different playstyles in the same level of content as their main.

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Needs to be harder to gear alts imo.

I know it won’t. And I accept that.

Easier gearing means meta issues become even worse.