Waited 3 hours for a healer

This is a player issue. There is nothing Blizzard can do.

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Jesus this. The trash packs are terrifying in some of the dungeons at sufficient key levels. Like, harder than most raid encounters terrifying.

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I woulda gave up after 35mins

They could make healing easier that would fix it

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I can’t find a good reason to apply to anything below a 17.

System is rigged that way.

maybe they needed a lust or brez… not that any justification is even needed…

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They’re making it sound like NO healers are applying to their groups, which just isn’t true. You can’t sit there in queue and keep declining mistweavers and holy priests and then claim that “NOBODY” is applying to your group. It’s absurd.

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Healer is the role that I’ve waited the longest for whenever I am tanking on my DK. I feel like getting groups is significantly faster when I am on my healers. That being said, I just swapped to heal a brackenhide for my brother so he could get rating (even tho i wanted it on my DK, cause my priest didn’t need the dungeon) because we waited 22 minutes and didn’t have any healers Q. As soon as I logged off and swapped over, they had one join the Q but it was too late at that rate. lol.

It takes 2 months before I can make an appointment to see my doctor. Healers are very busy!

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^^^ this right here. I mean come on. 5 minutes of your time as a tank to not totally alienate other players.

We aren’t asking people to go slow. We’re asking them to go at a reasonable pace as the situation calls and keep agro.


Im not calling for the game to be made too easy. Im personallt calling for the game to be reasonable and have a pace. For healers to have some more downtime and dps utility that is all.

And if you’re going to pull it. Keep agro and tank it.

Nothing will change really until people treat eachother better. Sometimes you need to lower your expectations and relax a bit. Healers are generally way ahead of the curve in this regard because we tend to be sensitive people.

So healers have learned to do a few things: stay away from pugs. Stay out of meta end game content. And make friends. That means less casual healers because we casuals will just avoid the gogogogo zugzug content all together. Even if we are so casual we have to pug.

That YmmyTv guy or whatever his name is. He’s a unicorn healer. And he doesn’t even pug that much.

If you’re a tank or DPS it behoooooves! You to befriend every random healer. Even the terrible ones. If you’re patient with them and treat them well. They will eventually get better. And they’ll start pushing you to go into more challenging content or pull biggguurrrr! With very few exceptions. Most people want to improve and try to. Very few healers want a carry or to be dead weight. If someone is making a mistake let em know kindly. Don’t throw someone just learning to swim or dive in the deep end or up the 40tf Olympic dive board tho. Work your way up to it. And if they aren’t keeping up. Cut em slack. Especially if you have room to.

I’ve been in groups that push hard and time keys like 15 minutes under. And I’ve seen groups that would have come in close on time with slightly slower pacing absolutely crumble.

You got get there tho. And blizz needs to cut healers some more slack.

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It’s not blizzards problem to fix. Healing right now is fun. The problem lies with the players and community. Stop blaming the healer for everything and maybe they would be willing to pug more.

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It can be fun. It’s not though. Not really. It’s just ok. It’s not “fun”.

I know what you nean though I KSM’d kharazan and grimrail and iron docks pretty fast.

It’s not tho. And DF is mehhhh and people, especially random tanks often seem to really hit the paint hard nowadays.

Fun for me is challenging and simultaneously relaxing and having agency.

It isn’t blizzards job to fix player toxicity. It is blizzards job to make healing fun for the majority of healers… not just the cyberninjawareior 000011000 world first meta healer.

You guys want healers to flood your queues and a buyers market? You’re going to have to compromise and change how you run your groups a bit. Otherwise good luck lol.

I’m not complaining for my sake. Just reiterating why DF is bleeding healers. And I’m here to remind you it’s a big part of why the game is in decline. Part of that resides in the design and expectations of many M+ players who ARE absolutely immature. Don’t play MMOS for the reason most OG healers started. Etc…

Blizz can help change that by cutting healers some slack and designing content better. They can’t solve it through force or punishment or wacky systems. They can ease up on healers in general a bit.

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This is me. I will only pug if I have my brother to tank for me. We’ve been doing tank/healer in m+ since it started. I know him, I know what he can take and vice versa.

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I wish I wasn’t such a sensitive person. I just am scared of m+ now. I would study the dungeons and then 1 pug would just destroy my morale. It got to the point I was just focused on the “Damage Taken” meter so I could link it to them when they died. I wish it was fun to pug

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Did not have this issue today, did 2 keys with no issues finding a healer (on my main).

Yeah. Cuz blanket nerfs to all healing was a player creation.

5 mins is too much. I’ll pull for people in irrelevant content as a healer. Was doing m2s for valor.

who says Blizzard will fix it? this is for the community to fix.

I used to heal alot but healers are blamed for everything. I gave up. All but 1 remain and I won’t even try mythic.

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They didn’t.

But healers wanted to heal not dps.

And blizzard had to deal with 1 tank 4 dps m+ groups