Vulpera Discussion Megathread (Part 1)

Give us the Vulpera! We have shown our support and will not stop til the adorable fox race is playable!

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Vulpera are freaks. I will relentlessly initiate vote kicks on any Vulpera characters if they come about, and start up an opposite faction toon with warmode enabled to relentlessly camp them until the fur all over their freaky bodies is matted with furry tears.

You all though the guy who hated pandaren and would camp redridge on a hordie then come to the forums with huge diary like posts was single minded in his focus? You all have seen NOTHING.
10/07/2018 08:59 AMPosted by Arthurious
Vulpera are freaks. I will relentlessly initiate vote kicks on any Vulpera characters if they come about, and start up an opposite faction toon with warmode enabled to relentlessly camp them until the fur all over their freaky bodies is matted with furry tears.

You all though the guy who hated pandaren and would camp redridge on a hordie then come to the forums with huge diary like posts was single minded in his focus? You all have seen NOTHING.


Kay.

See you on the battlefield, fellow furry friend =3
Nah, not every race should get priest. I actually miss the days when gnomes and tauren didn't have priests. It adds more flavor to the race.



Imho less options does not equate to more flavor.
10/07/2018 09:17 AMPosted by Lovelylove
Nah, not every race should get priest. I actually miss the days when gnomes and tauren didn't have priests. It adds more flavor to the race.



Imho less options does not equate to more flavor.


I was going to comment on this but forgot:

Less classes doesn't mean MORE flavour, but it does mean more DISTINCT flavour. If you have a race that is literally every class, you have to buckle down and write lore for WHY they are every class. If you have a bunch of races that can all be every class, you again have to write lore for every combination. This means lots and lots of flavour, but the combinations all kind of taste the same when you look at the race as a whole.

Basically every race/class combination is a different flavour of jelly belly jelly beans. Each one on its own tastes unique, but the more you stuff in your face at the same time the more every handful tastes the same.
Just based on their nature and environment, I would say Vulpera will have at least the following classes:

Hunter
Warrior
Rogue
Shaman

After that things get a little iffy.

Maybe:
Druid
Mage
Monk

IMO, the rest would not fit well.
10/07/2018 09:25 AMPosted by Halthir
Just based on their nature and environment, I would say Vulpera will have at least the following classes:

Hunter
Warrior
Rogue
Shaman

After that things get a little iffy.

Maybe:
Druid
Mage
Monk

IMO, the rest would not fit well.


Rogue, Hunter, Shaman and Warrior are all likely. Demon Hunter and Death Knight are very unlikely. Anything else is an absolute crap shoot at the moment.
10/07/2018 08:59 AMPosted by Arthurious
Vulpera are freaks. I will relentlessly initiate vote kicks on any Vulpera characters if they come about, and start up an opposite faction toon with warmode enabled to relentlessly camp them until the fur all over their freaky bodies is matted with furry tears.

You all though the guy who hated pandaren and would camp redridge on a hordie then come to the forums with huge diary like posts was single minded in his focus? You all have seen NOTHING.


Says the guy playing a cow (pst, which BTW, has fur).

10/07/2018 09:17 AMPosted by Lovelylove
Nah, not every race should get priest. I actually miss the days when gnomes and tauren didn't have priests. It adds more flavor to the race.



Imho less options does not equate to more flavor.


It does as long as it makes sense lore wise.

Back to the example of gnomes.

Gnomes are a technological race and don't believe in the light, spirits, ect. Basically it made lore sense that they would lack priests, druids, and shaman.

Back in Cata when gnomes got priests, people asked why on the forums since it doesn't make sense. It got handwaved as "oh they are just medical people applying first aid". That wouldn't be bad if they reskinned the abilities to match but nope, they look like all the other priests.

So yeah, less options can be more flavorful if the additional options break the flavor of the race.

I know some people will point out tuaren priests/paladins but at least those make way more sense than gnome priests.
10/07/2018 09:24 AMPosted by Eevee
Less classes doesn't mean MORE flavour, but it does mean more DISTINCT flavour. If you have a race that is literally every class, you have to buckle down and write lore for WHY they are every class. If you have a bunch of races that can all be every class, you again have to write lore for every combination. This means lots and lots of flavour, but the combinations all kind of taste the same when you look at the race as a whole.


Idk I prefer the D&D approach where you have your own self written story. There really isn't race/class restrictions in D&D. At least not with the main races and classes. An orc paladin would be really weird and some DMs might frown on it but not explicitly prohibited. Obiously D&D is a table top game which has a lot of different connotative. But for me more race/class combos is more potential for unique stories and can only add depth to a character. After all we are playing a character, not a race.
10/07/2018 09:35 AMPosted by Phrenk
Back in Cata when gnomes got priests, people asked why on the forums since it doesn't make sense. It got handwaved as "oh they are just medical people applying first aid". That wouldn't be bad if they reskinned the abilities to match but nope, they look like all the other priests.


As far as I knew. The lore reason is that their holy/shadow mages. So normally a priest of another race is devoted to the light. It's their religion. But a gnome, or goblin priest uses the light how a mage wields arcane, or fire. Magic is magic.

Edit: I also really dislike stereotyping races. Just because a race is well known for being one way doesn't mean every single member of that race is forced to be that way. That's not realistic. Like I said we're playing characters, not a race. So I don't really see anything wrong with a gnome actually joining the church of holy light and becoming a religious fanatic.
10/07/2018 05:25 AMPosted by Canopia
10/07/2018 05:03 AMPosted by Pottaz
This is good stuff

Truly living up to the name “megathread”

I wonder how the voice acting would be if we got them to be playable?

Would they be more tough sounding like nisha, or calmer like Kiro?


Tough sounding Vulpera is just cringe inducing... thats like trying to make gnomes sound like Rambo. I wouldnt mind a middle ground but please no christian bale batman vulpera.
I'm fine with Nisha being the only Vulpera with a spine.
I do agree I really hope these little guys become a playable race sooner than later and definitely for The Horde. We need some cuteness.
10/07/2018 09:38 AMPosted by Lovelylove
10/07/2018 09:35 AMPosted by Phrenk
Back in Cata when gnomes got priests, people asked why on the forums since it doesn't make sense. It got handwaved as "oh they are just medical people applying first aid". That wouldn't be bad if they reskinned the abilities to match but nope, they look like all the other priests.


As far as I knew. The lore reason is that their holy/shadow mages. So normally a priest of another race is devoted to the light. It's their religion. But a gnome, or goblin priest uses the light how a mage wields arcane, or fire. Magic is magic.

Edit: I also really dislike stereotyping races. Just because a race is well known for being one way doesn't mean every single member of that race is forced to be that way. That's not realistic. Like I said we're playing characters, not a race. So I don't really see anything wrong with a gnome actually joining the church of holy light and becoming a religious fanatic.


Stereotyping races is what basically blizzard did, has done, and will do.

Yeah, a few might break away from the pack and do something else. However the player is not apart of that pack. An example of these are the blood elf druids.

And yes, in D&D you 'could' be any race/class combo. However a lot of DMs won't allow really odd ones or in Adventure play, some are banned. It all depends on the world the DM is setting up.

Well we can correlate that to WoW. Sure any race can be any class, but once we add in the lore of Wow and history of said race... Does it make sense? Blizzard is essentially the DM that says what can and can't get played.

Finally, limiting X to Y race does have some benefits. It helps increase the population of a race if a class is limited to it. The other way around works as well. It can help the population of a class if a race the player plays is limited to it.

Tauren having a druid and paladin option has helped increase the population of the race.

Vulpera not having priests can help the population of healing classes they do get (shaman, maybe Monk).
No way they're not going to be.

I just can't wait to see the lame Alliance equivalent since Blizzard is pretty much indifferent to everything on that side until the very last second when they remember we exist and they should probably support the other half of the playerbase a little bit.
10/07/2018 08:59 AMPosted by Arthurious
Vulpera are freaks. I will relentlessly initiate vote kicks on any Vulpera characters if they come about, and start up an opposite faction toon with warmode enabled to relentlessly camp them until the fur all over their freaky bodies is matted with furry tears.

You all though the guy who hated pandaren and would camp redridge on a hordie then come to the forums with huge diary like posts was single minded in his focus? You all have seen NOTHING.


inb4 you vote kick the healer/tank that you/the other dps waited 45+ minutes for over something as petty as a race.
Just about no one will take you on that offer, dude. You're more likely to be kicked for something like that.
And if you are a heroic/mythic raider/dungeoneer - and are paying more attention to race, then y'know MECHANICS SO WE DON'T WIPE. Not only will wipes be placed on you, but you will be kicked faster than you can say "I feel emasculated by Vulpera"

As for ganking them, who cares? They enabled warmode, they know the risks. And you know what? They'll gank you, too.
I guess furry threads are not applicable for forum post cap?
I would be surprised if Vulpera didn't get Monk. They have a similar history of being enslaved and rising up to take out their slavers that they share with Pandaren.
I don’t remover ever seeing them in lore and they are boring... I’d rather have ogres which I still would t want
10/07/2018 01:08 PMPosted by Anabolick
I don’t remover ever seeing them in lore and they are boring... I’d rather have ogres which I still would t want


Don't get me wrong. I want Orges too. They were apart of the horde since the second war. They deserve a place.

But Orges aren't in Zundizar. The horde doesn't help them with an uprising this expansion and the Orges aren't a short race. I do think we need another to even out the dwarves and gnomes.

So each side is balanced in punting potential.
10/07/2018 10:19 AMPosted by Phrenk
Yeah, a few might break away from the pack and do something else. However the player is not apart of that pack.


We use doomhammer and ashbringer but we're not an exceptional member of our species? Ok then. Logical.