Vulpera Discussion Megathread (Part 1)

I did a thing for my pally brothers and sisters in arms....
http://ptr.wowhead.com/dressing-room#RE0s0zJ8z9MV9MmR0czNND87oPbr8zmw87mOig8zmw8PaZ8zmw8PqM8zmw8Pa48zmw8PaY8zmw8E3U87c

Still holding my breath for warlocks
07/20/2018 10:28 AMPosted by Fallynn
"They just should remain non playable" yeah nope not going to cut it. People here want them as a race. Saying that won't convince anyone. Bring on the Vulpera!
They just add so much to the roster we currently have
07/20/2018 03:53 PMPosted by Hylianlich
07/20/2018 10:28 AMPosted by Fallynn
"They just should remain non playable" yeah nope not going to cut it. People here want them as a race. Saying that won't convince anyone. Bring on the Vulpera!
They just add so much to the roster we currently have

...And? There's no problem with having more. The more the merrier.
07/20/2018 03:27 PMPosted by Dliver
07/20/2018 03:26 PMPosted by Snowfox
excellent fellow oppressed vulpine. for too long have you been mistreated, chased, and not had your fur properly stroked and cleaned. soon we will rise.. soon. Sharpen your claws, bare your fangs, and get ready to loose the foxen of war.

Vixens of War would make a great female band name.


Sounds like they'd have to be punk or metal.
More options for everyone is always a good thing, to let people choose what they want and how they want! I do not see any problem with the neutral panda race (obviously), so I think a neutral vulpera race would be fun, too! But whether they are Horde or Alliance, I will play them, because I play both sides! Bring on the cutes!
07/20/2018 04:51 PMPosted by MĂ©ixinghua
More options for everyone is always a good thing, to let people choose what they want and how they want! I do not see any problem with the neutral panda race (obviously), so I think a neutral vulpera race would be fun, too! But whether they are Horde or Alliance, I will play them, because I play both sides! Bring on the cutes!

Not having Vulpera be neutral at this point would just be a crime, they're too damn perfect for this world
07/20/2018 05:44 PMPosted by Cersyl
07/20/2018 04:51 PMPosted by MĂ©ixinghua
More options for everyone is always a good thing, to let people choose what they want and how they want! I do not see any problem with the neutral panda race (obviously), so I think a neutral vulpera race would be fun, too! But whether they are Horde or Alliance, I will play them, because I play both sides! Bring on the cutes!

Not having Vulpera be neutral at this point would just be a crime, they're too damn perfect for this world
Blizzard said they will never touch neutral races ever again after pandaren.
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Not having Vulpera be neutral at this point would just be a crime, they're too damn perfect for this world
Blizzard said they will never touch neutral races ever again after pandaren.

BLABLABLABLA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

P.S. Vulpera will be neutral regardless of what anyone says
07/20/2018 05:55 PMPosted by Cersyl
... Blizzard said they will never touch neutral races ever again after pandaren.

BLABLABLABLA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

P.S. Vulpera will be neutral regardless of what anyone says

But if they go Horde (which I'm betting will happen) they won't be neutral o.o
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BLABLABLABLA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

P.S. Vulpera will be neutral regardless of what anyone says

But if they go Horde (which I'm betting will happen) they won't be neutral o.o


Considering their rep faction is Horde only... yeah, our chances of them being Horde if we get them are incredibly high.
I really hope they put vulpera in as a playable race, regardless of faction. I wouldn't mind my scrappy little fox mage being horde, it would give me a reason to get into the horde side of the story again.
07/20/2018 06:56 PMPosted by Lylana
I really hope they put vulpera in as a playable race, regardless of faction. I wouldn't mind my scrappy little fox mage being horde, it would give me a reason to get into the horde side of the story again.


We would gladly welcome ye! (Well, most of us. Some Hordies are faction Elitists, but that happens on both sides)

I don’t think you’d be disappointed if we got them, because the stories are pretty interesting when you get into them.

Just from playing the Beta, I think the story we’ve got going so far has a lot of interesting dynamics to it.
Especially the values of the various leaders of the Horde conflicting with one another.

And from what we saw of War if the Thorns in PTR, it would do peeps good to at least watch the Horde side of events. THE FURBOLG! Apparently, we enslaved them from the alliance perspective, but we earned their trust from the Horde perspective.

I myself am going to probably level at least one Alliance to be able to experience both sides of the complex story.

Oops. Maybe a bit off topic.
07/20/2018 05:31 AMPosted by Eevee
07/20/2018 04:59 AMPosted by Cersyl
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It's certainly a very grounded theory, the questing experience for Horde players in the zone however does conclude with both the Sethrak and Vulpera more or less proclaiming allegiance to the Zandalari, (not the Horde mind you, the two haven't even established an alliance yet) so I'd imagine that once the Vulpera hear of the friendly sethraks' (devoted) plan to reunite with the Faithless and that they allowed the capture of their wild god, we might end up witnessing one of the "twists and turns" in BfA's story.

I'd imagine that when it comes to that the Zandalari or Sylvanas will essentially be forced to pick between the two unless the Vulpera become divided on the issue.


I absolutely know who is going to break this alliance too (regardless of whether this theory about a wild god is true)

Nisha.

Nisha is absolutely bloodthirsty, it's been implied she kills Sethrak in part for fun. I mean, she even wears one of their skulls as a helmet:

http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/739782.jpg

If anybody is going to sabotage an alliance with the noodles, it's her. I would fully expect her to make some kind of attack that destroys the trust of the Sethrak.


As someone who has great interest in seeing sethrak in the alliance, I say I like this theory!
As someone who has great interest in seeing sethrak in the alliance, I say I like this theory!


I am not one who really buys the faction bias complaint one way or the other. But if the Horde got both Vulpera and Sethrak I might have to rethink this position.

Also, I'd like to weigh in on this Neutral Vulpera discussion band remind people that until Vulpera are officially confirmed, nothing is known for certain.

All evidence I have seen points to the Vulpera being a horde exclusive race, but things could still change. Blizzard can take the story any direction they want to go, it just comes down to what they want to do.

That being said, I don't believe Blizzard wants to do any neutral race.

Blizzard has expressed regret with the implementation of Pandaren. You only have to listen to their firm denial of high Elf requests to see they believe aesthetic uniqueness is a more important aspect of the factions than maximizing player customization.

In addition, Blizzard is building this expansion on a strong theme of faction conflict. Even though Pandaren ended in a literal civil war, a theme from the very beginning of the expansion was the questioning of perpetual war. This motif of overcoming faction prejudice made Pandaria the only expansion where a neutral race would be on theme.

BFA in the other hand, has been billed as faction pride. I suspect the story may diverge into begrudging cooperation, but we are a long way from that right now. The time is not right for another neutral race, it would be closer to expansion end for such a thing and the Vulpera models are clearly getting ready to join sooner rather than later.

This leads into my next point, the lack of a second race being ready for alliance players. It is true that no race, not even the sethrak are as close to being ready as the vulpera, but that does not mean there is no time left. We don't even have a solid release date for Zandalari and Kul tirans yet,meaning our fox frienss are not even front of the line yet. Blizzard is entirely capable of making a PC quality model among other responsibilities in the time span of one patch. Whether this model is the sethrak or something entirely different remains to be seen. But given they have has to work on getting an entire expansion ready to launch, the surprising thing is that the vulpera are as close to finished as they are, not that no other models have caught up.

So in conclusion, I don't think neutral Vulpera are likely. But until we get official word on anything, we can dream.

*Polishes golden hyena armor*
07/21/2018 12:06 AMPosted by Eevee
As someone who has great interest in seeing sethrak in the alliance, I say I like this theory!


I am not one who really buys the faction bias complaint one way or the other. But if the Horde got both Vulpera and Sethrak I might have to rethink this position.

Also, I'd like to weigh in on this Neutral Vulpera discussion band remind people that until Vulpera are officially confirmed, nothing is known for certain.

All evidence I have seen points to the Vulpera being a horde exclusive race, but things could still change. Blizzard can take the story any direction they want to go, it just comes down to what they want to do.

That being said, I don't believe Blizzard wants to do any neutral race.

Blizzard has expressed regret with the implementation of Pandaren. You only have to listen to their firm denial of high Elf requests to see they believe aesthetic uniqueness is a more important aspect of the factions than maximizing player customization.

In addition, Blizzard is building this expansion on a strong theme of faction conflict. Even though Pandaren ended in a literal civil war, a theme from the very beginning of the expansion was the questioning of perpetual war. This motif of overcoming faction prejudice made Pandaria the only expansion where a neutral race would be on theme.

BFA in the other hand, has been billed as faction pride. I suspect the story may diverge into begrudging cooperation, but we are a long way from that right now. The time is not right for another neutral race, it would be closer to expansion end for such a thing and the Vulpera models are clearly getting ready to join sooner rather than later.

This leads into my next point, the lack of a second race being ready for alliance players. It is true that no race, not even the sethrak are as close to being ready as the vulpera, but that does not mean there is no time left. We don't even have a solid release date for Zandalari and Kul tirans yet,meaning our fox frienss are not even front of the line yet. Blizzard is entirely capable of making a PC quality model among other responsibilities in the time span of one patch. Whether this model is the sethrak or something entirely different remains to be seen. But given they have has to work on getting an entire expansion ready to launch, the surprising thing is that the vulpera are as close to finished as they are, not that no other models have caught up.

So in conclusion, I don't think neutral Vulpera are likely. But until we get official word on anything, we can dream.

*Polishes golden hyena armor*
If you play both factions like how the game intends factions bias is non-existent.
07/21/2018 12:06 AMPosted by Eevee
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I am not one who really buys the faction bias complaint one way or the other. But if the Horde got both Vulpera and Sethrak I might have to rethink this position.

Also, I'd like to weigh in on this Neutral Vulpera discussion band remind people that until Vulpera are officially confirmed, nothing is known for certain.

All evidence I have seen points to the Vulpera being a horde exclusive race, but things could still change. Blizzard can take the story any direction they want to go, it just comes down to what they want to do.

That being said, I don't believe Blizzard wants to do any neutral race.

Blizzard has expressed regret with the implementation of Pandaren. You only have to listen to their firm denial of high Elf requests to see they believe aesthetic uniqueness is a more important aspect of the factions than maximizing player customization.

In addition, Blizzard is building this expansion on a strong theme of faction conflict. Even though Pandaren ended in a literal civil war, a theme from the very beginning of the expansion was the questioning of perpetual war. This motif of overcoming faction prejudice made Pandaria the only expansion where a neutral race would be on theme.

BFA in the other hand, has been billed as faction pride. I suspect the story may diverge into begrudging cooperation, but we are a long way from that right now. The time is not right for another neutral race, it would be closer to expansion end for such a thing and the Vulpera models are clearly getting ready to join sooner rather than later.

This leads into my next point, the lack of a second race being ready for alliance players. It is true that no race, not even the sethrak are as close to being ready as the vulpera, but that does not mean there is no time left. We don't even have a solid release date for Zandalari and Kul tirans yet,meaning our fox frienss are not even front of the line yet. Blizzard is entirely capable of making a PC quality model among other responsibilities in the time span of one patch. Whether this model is the sethrak or something entirely different remains to be seen. But given they have has to work on getting an entire expansion ready to launch, the surprising thing is that the vulpera are as close to finished as they are, not that no other models have caught up.

So in conclusion, I don't think neutral Vulpera are likely. But until we get official word on anything, we can dream.

*Polishes golden hyena armor*
If you play both factions like how the game intends factions bias is non-existent.

Did you ignore her entire paragraph on how they regret Pandaren being neutral? I personally would love to see more neutral races to decide what faction they'd like to go, but I don't think it will happen due to that particular reason specifically.

The only likely scenario I can think of is Vry'kul--Northrend Vry'kul would join Horde, Stormheim Vry'kul the Alliance. Or something along that line. If they split a population to do so and made it make sense, maybe, but they indeed have made it clear that they're not going that route.

I think Vulpera for Horde and Sethrak for alliance would be perfect myself; I'd end up playing both. They might be working on making Sethrak playable too and have things on a lockdown. You never know. Because they've been very secretive lately on matters and shut everything away after that datamined thing was found.
07/21/2018 11:30 AMPosted by Fallynn
I think Vulpera for Horde and Sethrak for alliance would be perfect myself; I'd end up playing both.


Yeeaaahhhhhh!!
07/21/2018 12:06 AMPosted by Eevee

So in conclusion, I don't think neutral Vulpera are likely. But until we get official word on anything, we can dream.


Although a lot of evidence points they will stay with the horde, as an altoholic i would really like to create Vulpera chars for the alliance. If itÂŽs not possible well I dont mind to play horde side then.
07/20/2018 04:02 PMPosted by Felvixen
07/20/2018 03:27 PMPosted by Dliver
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Vixens of War would make a great female band name.


Sounds like they'd have to be punk or metal.


The lead singer has to look like Joan Jett. And their first Top 10 single should be a cover of "Hot For Teacher."
I really hope Vulpera can be a class I like. Monk or Priest preferably.